Mark, Sure - nobody contests the 60 MPH avg over 24 hours, that is indeed a sacrificial pace, requiring high speed driving and short stops and lots of non-busy freeway between refill points. I have only managed once to get a 72 MPH avg over 5 hours by simply driving I5 for 5 hours straight at 72 MPH. Obviously the first stop or the first diversion to a non-freeway will immediately put a dent into such an average.
The issue here is that the record is claimed to be an EV record, while it was set using a series-hybrid car: a Hydrogen generator that creates electricity and powers the electric drivetrain. Calling that an EV is a stretch of the truth because it really is a hybrid, just like the diesel-electric trains that run on tracks without catenary or third rail or other electric feed. There are many more issues here, ranging from the inability to refuel unless you happen to live in a few small spots, via the *increase* in pollution that will be caused by the switch from gasoline cars to hydrogen, since the hydrogen vehicle is less energy efficient and thus consumes more primary energy (natural gas mostly at this point) and thus CO2 emissions will *rise* with the switch from ICE to Hydrogen, in contrast to the switch from ICE to BEV. And it will likely be impossible to park the hydrogen car in a garage or underground parking structure, seeing how ridiculously strict the legal requirements on parking of CNG/LPG vehicles are, I expect that Hydrogen will get an even stricter treatment if the laws use any logic. But that will probably follow when the hydrogen vehicles get any market share, at this moment it is only a handful prototypes, no matter what the proponents like to call them. Enough energy wasted on discussing Hydrogen already, let's bury the dead horse. Regards, Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Abramowitz via EV Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 4:21 PM To: Willie2; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] New EV world record set That's a difficult accomplishment even in a non-EV! Sent from AltaMail From: Willie2 via EV <[email protected]> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [EVDL] New EV world record set Date: 9/26/16, 4:16 PM On 09/26/2016 06:00 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > That is interesting, too bad it is irrelevant since Hydrogen passenger > cars are not viable, but we have been over that before so I won't start > that again. > It is just sad that so many millions of dollars are wasted on this, > instead of pushing the current viable technologies further ahead. > Oh well, eventually we'll all see the light, time will tell what will > come out ahead. > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Abramowitz > via EV > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 1:54 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: [EVDL] New EV world record set > > > 1,438 all-electric miles in 24 hours! > > http://vrl.ht/3r3Rf > About a year ago, I covered about 1500 miles in about 35 hours in my Tesla. One driver. I napped during charges. I did some slow driving when I mis-estimated my energy needs for a couple of legs. I believe an average of about 60 mph is possible with only moderately illegal speeds. Two drivers would make things go more smoothly. And a navigator to avoid energy estimation blunders. _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160926/bc99 5e4a/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
