How many of these adapters are approved by the vehicle manufacturer and how 
many are UL listed?  In addition, how many of these adapters come with a list 
of vehicles for which they have been tested and certificated by the UL or the 
manufacturer?  In addition, I know of companies that are selling adapters that 
do not issue a pilot signal (square wave).  The adapters only have a switch 
that show that a vehicle is connected.  I guess I should not have stated "they 
are not safe to use".  I should have stated that these adapters have not been 
shown to be as safe as the J1772 connectors installed by the vehicle 
manufacturers.


Some car manufacturers like Tesla sell adapters. However, these adapters should 
not be used with other vehicles.


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ROBERT via EV wrote:

> (1) How does a vehicle with a J1772 connector know the rating of the NEMA
> outlet?

The portable J1772 EVSE charging cord/adapter tells the vehicle via the pilot 
signal how much AC current may be drawn.  A 120V J1772 cord will almost 
certainly tell the vehicle not to draw more than 12A, so that it is safe to use 
on any 15A or 20A 120V outlet.  I believe that some aftermarket cords may be 
available with a 16A pilot signal or the ability for the user to configure the 
cord for either 12A or 16A, however, I an unaware of an OEM cord with this 
capability.

> One can buy a J1772 to NEMA
> adapter; however, they are not safe to use.  All these adapters "fake out"
> the EVSE and the user must be aware of the limitations.  It would not
> surprise me to see these adapters outlawed.

I'm not sure what sort of adapter you are thinking of.  As far as I know, every 
OEM that offers an EV with a J1772 charge inlet wither includes or offers a 
120V J1772 "opportunity charge" cord.  This cord *is* a proper J1772 EVSE and 
not only provides an appropriate pilot signal to the vehicle, but also does not 
energise the charging plug until it senses that it is mated with a J1772 
receptacle.

I can't see how one of these NEMA to J1772 opportunity charge cords can 
possibly be *less* safe than an ordinary NEMA extension cord between the outlet 
and a charger on the vehicle.

Cheers,

Roger.

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