Thank you all..

So, from the CAN bus point of view it would be more a 'software' challenge
and like some of you said; every model and even every vehicle version, may
have different propietary protocols, etc.
- We are talking of using a device like the one Collin suggests. Collin; I
think it is ok to advertise as long it is usefull to people on this forum,
like me.
- This new device would totally replace the ECU module thru the CAN bus.
- Would be a very clean and Pro. installation. Since software is easy to
reproduce, cost could be really low once developed correctly.

Cons:
- There could be impossible/unsolved codes on certain models or vehicles.
- every new vehicle-model would be a high cost-testing time to resolve.


On the other hand; Simulate the engine would imply a 'hardware' challenge,
plus some firmware development and as long the sensors doesn't change too
much from one model or brand to another, it could be a possiblity to go?
- Working on the engine sensors, would be mostly analog signals and some
digital ones, easier to code and control
- Could be a generic board, for several vehicles regardless the version of
sensors, year, etc.
- CAN bus after the ECU would be kept totally clean and orignal betewwn all
devices.

Cons:
- More than 10 outputs to simluate all sensors required, maybe 20?.
- Hardware PCB to design and manufacture and test on automitive environment


Cor, thank you for those suggestions on the Sparkplugs and Cat converter.
Something comes to my mind, doing the simulation board.. doesn´t necessarly
need to have all sensors wired and simulated. It is like when some sensor
fails (on a gas version), it triggers some DTCs and lights up the 'check
engine' light, but but the vehicle still working. And as long our desired
devices are working too (such steering, turn signals, AC, etc) in Gas
version, then it should do on electric too.

Collin, This CANDue is a fully free programmable unit I can put my code for
replacing the ECU? I may contact you off list to get more details on this

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Tom Parker via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 04/01/17 04:50, Collin Kidder via EV wrote:
>
> I don't think that generic sales pitches are acceptable on this list
>> but since it is topically relevant I'd like to quickly mention that I
>> am involved in the creation of many pieces of hardware and software to
>> aid in these things.
>>
>> CANDue: http://store.evtv.me/proddetail.php?prod=EVTVDue2&cat=23
>> SavvyCAN: http://www.savvycan.com
>>
>
> Along these lines, the audio from https://xi.hope.net/schedule.h
> tml#-2016-car-hacking-tools- is worth a listen and gives links to
> http://opengarages.org/index.php/Tools (which includes Colin's SavvyCAN)
> and other resources.
>
> More advanced, https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-8131-dieselgate_a_year_later
> shows how to glitch a VW ECU to bypass the flash read-protect and retrieve
> a firmware image (also the technical Dieselgate information is interesting
> but off topic). Going from a firmware image to an emulated ECU is probably
> the hard way to make a modern car work without it's ICE.
>
>
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