> The reported 10KW utilizing 167 panels sounds off though Someone donated to my church about sixty 2.2'x4' panels from the 1990's and they only produce about 40W each. Could be those were similar 60W panels. Bob
-----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Scott via EV Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:56 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable This caught my eye: "Ronald Reagan moves into the White House and immediately has the Carter PV panels ripped off its roof)." Jimmie Carter installed 32 thermal panels that provided hot water for the cafeteria, not electricity. Also, various accounts place the removal in 1986 before required roof repairs, after which they were not replaced. Half of the actual panels are now at Maine's Unity College, the other half are being donated to various institutions, such as The Smithsonian, The Carter Library and, of all things, the Solar Science and Technology Museum in Dezhou, China. The first PV panels on the White House grounds were installed by the Park Service while GW Bush was out of town. They are still there. (The reported 10KW utilizing 167 panels sounds off though.) President Obama installed 6.3 KW of PV on the actual White House. Here are some sources for part of this: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/carter-white-house-solar-panel- array/ https://understandsolar.com/white-house-solar-panels/ On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Lee Hart via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > Paul Dove via EV wrote: > >> Many researchers have been attempting this. MIT claims 100% increase >> in capacity. >> > > It might help to put this in the perspective of research scientists. > They look at some pair of reactants that look promising for a battery. > They can calculate the voltage that would be produced. They can > calculate how many electrons will be stored and released per atom. > They know the atomic weight of the reactants, and so can figure out > the theoretical watthour capacity and watts per kilogram. > > So they make a few laboratory tests, on a very small scale. Holy cow! > It's twice as good as any existing battery! Call the patent attorneys! > > But... you haven't taken into account the current-carrying conductors > to bring the power out. Or the separator, that has to keep the > reactants apart (or your battery would be a short circuited). Or the > packaging. All these add considerably to the size and weight. > > Then, how are you going to make it? And what will it cost? Things you > can do in the laboratory by hand can be damnably difficult to scale up. > > These are the reasons why no real battery ever comes anywhere close to > providing its theoretical yield. > > -- > "I've discovered a way to predict the winner of horse race! First, we > assume the horses are spheres rolling on a frictionless track..." > -- > Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag > racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group > /NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170720/9b3717 d9/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
