Yes, but emissions are lower. Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 15, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Tom Keenan via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Way OT here, but months ago we drove a rental truck across country. It was > an E85 flex-fuel rig. We stopped someplace in Corn Country and filled up on > ‘cheap fuel’ (E85) instead of regular E10 because it happened to be > available. Instead of getting 10-11 mpg as averaged for the first part of the > trip using E10, the mileage dropped to 6-7 mpg - a drop of about 25% in mpg > over a relatively flat section of interstate. Came back up to 11 mpg or so > once we filled back up with E10 at the next fill up (which came quickly after > fewer miles per tank using E85). > This reflects very well the known difference in energy content between > ethanol and gasoline. Never bought E85 again, as it was very slow to > accelerate the moving truck to freeway speed using that fuel, and zero > advantage in cost/mile. > At the prices mentioned below ($2.45/$3.01), the energy content is almost > exactly the same per $ for E85 and E10 (‘regular gas’). In other words, as we > found out during our real-world example, if you were to place either in your > flex-fuel vehicle, they would have virtually the same cost-per-mile. So, one > is not ‘way cheaper than the other’ when considering actual miles per $. > Performance wise, I’d consider E85 inferior to E10 based on around 250 miles > of suffering with it, and wondering why the gas needle was dropping so > quickly. > > Tom Keenan > >> On Nov 15, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Jorg Brown via EV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Cor van de Water via EV <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Flex-fuel vehicles are notorious for *never* running on anything but >>> regular gas, >> >> What?? That's bonkers. At least where I live, E85 is way cheaper ( see >> https://goo.gl/maps/FCHNRzSm7TF2 ) - $2.45 per gallon versus $3.01 per >> gallon for regular unleaded. >> >> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I don't get why people get so excited about PIHs. >>> >>> California data shows a big problem with folks not even bothering to >>> charge them. >> >> Really? I was just reading >> https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1102004_why-isnt-the-2016-chevy-volt-a-flex-fuel-plug-in-hybrid-that-can-use-e85-ethanol >> and it said: >> >>> And Chevrolet's data on driving and usage patterns for more than >>> 80,000 Volts indicates that nine out of every 10 trips taken in the >>> longer-range 2016 Volt will be powered exclusively from grid >>> electricity used to recharge the battery. >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20171115/76a9aa02/attachment.html> >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
