Yes, but emissions are lower.

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> On Nov 15, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Tom Keenan via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> Way OT here, but months ago we drove a rental truck across country.  It was 
> an E85 flex-fuel rig.  We stopped someplace in Corn Country and filled up on 
> ‘cheap fuel’ (E85) instead of regular E10 because it happened to be 
> available. Instead of getting 10-11 mpg as averaged for the first part of the 
> trip using E10, the mileage dropped to 6-7 mpg - a drop of about 25% in mpg 
> over a relatively flat section of interstate. Came back up to 11 mpg or so 
> once we filled back up with E10 at the next fill up (which came quickly after 
> fewer miles per tank using E85).
> This reflects very well the known difference in energy content between 
> ethanol and gasoline.  Never bought E85 again, as it was very slow to 
> accelerate the moving truck to freeway speed using that fuel, and zero 
> advantage in cost/mile. 
> At the prices mentioned below ($2.45/$3.01), the energy content is almost 
> exactly the same per $ for E85 and E10 (‘regular gas’). In other words, as we 
> found out during our real-world example, if you were to place either in your 
> flex-fuel vehicle, they would have virtually the same cost-per-mile. So, one 
> is not ‘way cheaper than the other’ when considering actual miles per $.  
> Performance wise, I’d consider E85 inferior to E10 based on around 250 miles 
> of suffering with it, and wondering why the gas needle was dropping so 
> quickly. 
> 
> Tom Keenan
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Jorg Brown via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Cor van de Water via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Flex-fuel vehicles are notorious for *never* running on anything but
>>> regular gas,
>> 
>> What??  That's bonkers.  At least where I live, E85 is way cheaper ( see
>> https://goo.gl/maps/FCHNRzSm7TF2 ) - $2.45 per gallon versus $3.01 per
>> gallon for regular unleaded.
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't get why people get so excited about PIHs.
>>> 
>>> California data shows a big problem with folks not even bothering to
>>> charge them.
>> 
>> Really?  I was just reading
>> https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1102004_why-isnt-the-2016-chevy-volt-a-flex-fuel-plug-in-hybrid-that-can-use-e85-ethanol
>> and it said:
>> 
>>> And Chevrolet's data on driving and usage patterns for more than
>>> 80,000 Volts indicates that nine out of every 10 trips taken in the
>>> longer-range 2016 Volt will be powered exclusively from grid
>>> electricity used to recharge the battery.
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