*Today* you are absolutely correct. We'll see where we are "tomorrow."

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On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

>> A Tesla would do that.
> 
> Not for the $12k I paid for my 2013 volt.
> 
>> So could any of the FCEVs. Whether the latter were feasible would depend
> on where you live.
> 
> Not for the $12k I paid for my 2013 Volt.
> 
> And the FCEV would be a royal pain in the tusch because It has to be
> refuled somewhere probably no closer than 50 m iles form my house, whereas
> the PIH plugs in at home overnight and is full every morning with only 10
> seconds of my time.  AND on the rare trip to grammas, I can refuel it on
> almost any street corner.
> 
>> I also wonder if incentives for PIHs are impacting the offerings of
> automakers.
>> If there were no PIH incentives, would we have longer range pure EVs?  I
> don't know the answer.
> 
> I do.  Even at the future expected low cost of batteries, it makes no
> sense to haul around a 4-times heavier battery that adds $20,000 to the
> cost of the car everyday forever that is only used once a month and takes
> 30 minutes to charge that one time a month you need it on the road,
> compared to carrying around an extra 600 lbs of gas engine that can be
> refuled anywhere, anytime in 5 minutes.
> 
> I think PIH's are hear to stay for the single car owner who does mostly
> local travel but also needs the car for the occasional trip.  It makes no
> economic sense to buy a 250 mile BEV and then rarely use it while still
> suffering its limitations.
> 
> Bob, WB4aPR
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Nope, the Volt with its 50 mile EV range and 350 mile overall range is
>> ideal for me.  My daily use is about 32 miles so I drive exclusively
>> on electricity from my home solar.  Yet we can go to gramma's at the
>> drop of a hat which is 150 miles away too.  All for only the $12k
>> like-new purchase price for the 3 year old off-lease VOLT.  Ain't no
>> BEV that could do that.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Abramowitz [mailto:ma...@enviropolicy.com]
>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Ford's Energi pih abandonment raises questions>
>> (AK writer's EV-ignorance
>> 
>> Well, you could have used something else zero emission if you had it
>> instead of your PIH (and create a bit less pollution than a full ICE),
>> but again, your use is unfortunately not typical.
>> 
>>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV
>>>> <ev@lists.evdl.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ive only used 7 gallons of gas in my PIH Volt.  But today, I had to
>>> go to a meeting 25 miles away.  No problem.  I just drove.  Gas
>>> engine kicked in as needed.  Yes, I used another gallon and a half of
>>> gas, but then if I had not had a PIH, I could not have gone to the
> meeting.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
>>>> I don't get why people get so excited about PIHs.
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