*Today* you are absolutely correct. We'll see where we are "tomorrow."
Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV <email@example.com> wrote: >> A Tesla would do that. > > Not for the $12k I paid for my 2013 volt. > >> So could any of the FCEVs. Whether the latter were feasible would depend > on where you live. > > Not for the $12k I paid for my 2013 Volt. > > And the FCEV would be a royal pain in the tusch because It has to be > refuled somewhere probably no closer than 50 m iles form my house, whereas > the PIH plugs in at home overnight and is full every morning with only 10 > seconds of my time. AND on the rare trip to grammas, I can refuel it on > almost any street corner. > >> I also wonder if incentives for PIHs are impacting the offerings of > automakers. >> If there were no PIH incentives, would we have longer range pure EVs? I > don't know the answer. > > I do. Even at the future expected low cost of batteries, it makes no > sense to haul around a 4-times heavier battery that adds $20,000 to the > cost of the car everyday forever that is only used once a month and takes > 30 minutes to charge that one time a month you need it on the road, > compared to carrying around an extra 600 lbs of gas engine that can be > refuled anywhere, anytime in 5 minutes. > > I think PIH's are hear to stay for the single car owner who does mostly > local travel but also needs the car for the occasional trip. It makes no > economic sense to buy a 250 mile BEV and then rarely use it while still > suffering its limitations. > > Bob, WB4aPR > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV <firstname.lastname@example.org> >> wrote: >> >> Nope, the Volt with its 50 mile EV range and 350 mile overall range is >> ideal for me. My daily use is about 32 miles so I drive exclusively >> on electricity from my home solar. Yet we can go to gramma's at the >> drop of a hat which is 150 miles away too. All for only the $12k >> like-new purchase price for the 3 year old off-lease VOLT. Ain't no >> BEV that could do that. >> >> Bob >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark Abramowitz [mailto:ma...@enviropolicy.com] >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Ford's Energi pih abandonment raises questions> >> (AK writer's EV-ignorance >> >> Well, you could have used something else zero emission if you had it >> instead of your PIH (and create a bit less pollution than a full ICE), >> but again, your use is unfortunately not typical. >> >>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV >>>> <email@example.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Ive only used 7 gallons of gas in my PIH Volt. But today, I had to >>> go to a meeting 25 miles away. No problem. I just drove. Gas >>> engine kicked in as needed. Yes, I used another gallon and a half of >>> gas, but then if I had not had a PIH, I could not have gone to the > meeting. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: >>>> I don't get why people get so excited about PIHs. >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)