Thanks Bruce, and all those who have contributed. I'll answer a few of Bruce's questions. The reason that I am considering this is multiple. First, since I bought my wife her Prius Prime I have come to love the simplicity of Plugging in her car. I would like to emulate that and since I am probably adding some circuits and charging infrastructure in my garage for her, I wouldn't mind being able to set my truck up to be as simple as her car, and share the same charging infrastructure. Secondly, my employer is moving to a new location which will be on the edge of my current range. Finally, as Bruce has noted, I have plenty of charging options in my area, so being able to tap into that would allow my to go more places :) Of course, I could also just add more batteries... So I am investigating. I'm also considering doing the same for my motorcycle.
Also, I'm not quite as cost conscious as I have been in the past. Getting a few birds out of the nest has helped in that area :) Bruce remembered my chargers correctly, and yes they are dual voltage input although as Bruce has noted I'm only charging at about 1KW so I would not be fully using what I am paying for at most charging stations. I am looking at all options. I have close ties to Manzanita Micro as well, but as you noted their equipment is expensive, plus their chargers are pretty bulky. I really liked the look of the solution Jay pointed me to from Thuderstruck, or I may just add the J1772 inlet and stick with my current chargers. This is almost certainly what I will do for my motorcycle. Then again, I may do nothing at all. My wife's Prius Prime has me thinking about an OEM EV in the next couple of years... Since I live in the Portland Metro area, I can get out and see most of them at local dealerships, but there are still some that are only available in California. I'm heading for Disneyland next month with my wife and daughter, and I think I'll spend one full day test driving EVs and PIHs while I am down there so I can try them all. Damon ________________________________ From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> on behalf of brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:32 PM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: brucedp5 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Adding J1772 Plug to a conversion Damon didn't give all the watts, where charging, whys, whens I would need to fully make a decision. So, I hope Damon will correct my assumptions, guesses, etc. I'll assume his EValbum page is current https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.evalbum.com%2F1524&data=02%7C01%7C%7Caeddb20362ae4187281308d5a4dcf757%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636596191301444932&sdata=gAq%2FmZDtu9MIwYmMb8YnK2Ye55p1SpSaHWAWc7LQAlY%3D&reserved=0 System Voltage 96 Volts (series-parallel li-ion strings) '(2x) Chinese Lithium bike battery chargers ... 4 - 6 amp CCCV (48VDC) chargers ... from ... greentime' If I remember the past correctly, Damon has made frugal choice$, so I offer high, medium,and lower cost ideas. Anyone else also considering a j1772 charging upgrade can kill time poking around the internet searching for j1772 parts, etc. https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dj1772&data=02%7C01%7C%7Caeddb20362ae4187281308d5a4dcf757%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636596191301444932&sdata=ScQCQgVZJS94zcLa8vjwd2679gOk76Ga859UjDJMjzY%3D&reserved=0 parts IMO, before you do anything you should look at what public charging you have https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.plugshare.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Caeddb20362ae4187281308d5a4dcf757%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636596191301444932&sdata=K%2BJJZQReR5cZDveCnNeYpern7tDhiEQlxjtOLuyn72c%3D&reserved=0 I used the filter in the menu to only show j1772 EVSE. Damon has beau-coup/many j1772 to plug in to. But most of them are Blink network which at the most, their visitor rate is $0.50/kWh or $3 for a 1hour 6kW charge. There a few sites that are not blink or free. I also set the filter to only show Tesla Destination hpwc EVSE. there are only a few. Why? to see if using a Tesla to j1772 adapter would let him mooch a free charge (Tesla practically gives the hpwc EVSE away, charging is usually un-metered/no-network= free). (By comparison to Damon 's WA area, in my 76548 zip TX area, it is a public EVSE wilderness. There are a few j1772 EVSE around, but there are several hpwc I would want to be able to use. Anyone wanting to do this see https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Felectrek.co%2F2017%2F06%2F20%2Ftesla-j1772-adapter-electric-cars-destination-chargers%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Caeddb20362ae4187281308d5a4dcf757%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636596191301444932&sdata=X9yN7IDZr6gOehc%2BzzuOkP%2FWeBYYMFEUTPBKPi5byv4%3D&reserved=0 https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fshop.quickchargepower.com%2FJDapter-Stub-Tesla-Charge-Station-Adaptor-JDPTRSTB.htm%3Bjsessionid%3DF07E7DF3ACCD8060812B3E6AE319E039.p3plqscsfapp005&data=02%7C01%7C%7Caeddb20362ae4187281308d5a4dcf757%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636596191301444932&sdata=%2FcofA%2FtIyyc%2FuI5twER7L7R06gy4SuSrtTPW438z5iA%3D&reserved=0 ) OK, now on to chargers: I am a BIG-fanboy of Manzanitamicro's pfc chargers. But they are not-cheap= the expensive solution https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.manzanitamicro.com%2Fproducts%3Fpage%3Dshop.product_details%26flypage%3Dflypage.tpl%26product_id%3D110%26category_id%3D14&data=02%7C01%7C%7Caeddb20362ae4187281308d5a4dcf757%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636596191301444932&sdata=BOR0yt88sk80OzckHKVc1JOjufq7ZbbfBlKsa4oBKK4%3D&reserved=0 Te advantage is you can dial in any charge rate you want, and use the charge off nearly any power source (huge flexibility). I've used pfc-20, 30, 40, & 50 chargers. I like their flexibility so much, today I would rather save up my s.security checks until I could buy one, rather than going cheap, see https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbrucedp.tripod.com%2Fblazer%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Caeddb20362ae4187281308d5a4dcf757%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636596191301444932&sdata=A8b3sVHYlJL5iVfFcufeQquCtDIKz4%2BzMyPRg0ee60c%3D&reserved=0 The next step down in cost (medium price= less flexibility) https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.elconchargers.com%2Fcatalog%2Fitem%2F7344653%2F7638130.htm&data=02%7C01%7C%7Caeddb20362ae4187281308d5a4dcf757%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636596191301444932&sdata=GiLaAHpBdvGsc7iropWT8Z98XBC8FohfWTtBWGjaDzg%3D&reserved=0 This is an isolated charger. And push come to shove, at a RV park that only offered 120VAC 30Amp outlet it could push 22A at 96VDC. The following is only one source over many other EV parts biz, I am not promoting just this biz over any other, use it just as an example of what you nwill find if you do a search on electric conversion charger https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.evwest.com%2Fcatalog%2Findex.php%3FcPath%3D12&data=02%7C01%7C%7Caeddb20362ae4187281308d5a4dcf757%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636596191301444932&sdata=BhauE7MoyUR9fRBrLAcSRVjuboyEKWzZENyFqHW8uiA%3D&reserved=0 The lowest cost solution is to assume his e-bicycle chargers.cn can operate from 100-240VAC, like https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvi.raptor.ebaydesc.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItemDescV4%26item%3D282901348462%26category%3D48618%26pm%3D1%26ds%3D0%26t%3D1515983013000%26ver%3D0&data=02%7C01%7C%7Caeddb20362ae4187281308d5a4dcf757%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636596191301444932&sdata=ut%2B%2B2QTxAAQDqSB%2B1jaflKMM8bWrI%2FGAiGq6Jxzs%2Bvs%3D&reserved=0 or https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aliexpress.com%2Fitem%2FHigh-Quality-Aluminum-Housing-48V-5A-6A-Li-ion-Battery-Charger%2F422560048.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Caeddb20362ae4187281308d5a4dcf757%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636596191301444932&sdata=VL5%2BhcUjxl6pyKKbYTyvLL3ILYln923ivvkCJE%2FZruw%3D&reserved=0 then he would only need the j1772 parts, but he would be missing out on pushing the 6kW public EVSE offer. Which leads me to the last question. Why now does he want that j1772 charging ability when charging at hone has been enough up until now? Is it that he wants to push his range envelope to say make trips south to Portland, OR or go north? Those desires need to be included when making a upgrade decision. If it were me, my EV charging needs would be to to be able to charge anywhere, and everywhere. 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