Hi all,

Just to let you know www.TucsonEV.com carries the Yazaki produced Chademo inlet,
1m of wires, left hand door. I sell it for $650 plus shipping

Check out the link http://tucsonev.com/chademo.html

The part number on the page is the old one, the page needs to be updated to show
the new number. I just sent one to VN and another to the Czech Republic.

Rush Dougherty
Tucson AZ 85719

> -----Original Message-----
> From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Collin Kidder via EV
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 4:55 PM
> To: jerry freedomev
> Cc: Collin Kidder; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] DC charging handshake?
>
> DC fast charging is a mess. You have:
>
> 1. CHAdeMO. It's currently maxed out at 500v and 125A so 62.5KW but nobody
> really can reach that peak. Most battery packs top out at 400v or so and thus
> you'd get 400 * 120 = 48KW peak. But, there is a new CHAdeMO standard that
> will support up to 400KW. This standard tends more toward European and
> Asian manufacturers
>
> 2. CCS/Combo - Allows for either AC or DC charging and up to 350kw.
> Favored more by domestic and some European makers.
>
> 3. Tesla super charger - obvious who this is favored by.
>
> The super charger is probably the one you were thinking of. They're popping up
> everywhere these days. They're over 100kw. But, you have to have a Tesla to
use
> them. Technically someone skilled in the black arts could probably hack them
to
> work on other things but that'd be illegal. You wouldn't have to worry about
> legality if you were building the EVSE side yourself. But, I have no idea
where
> you could get the plugs because they're only on Tesla super chargers. The car
> side you could at least get from a wrecked car. I suppose someone could 3D
> print the plug end but then you'd have to figure out if you wanted to trust a
3D
> printed part with 100KW running through the pins.
> Or, you know, you could sneak out at 1 in the morning with a pair of bolt
cutters
> and.... nevermind, bad idea. ;)
>
> As for CCS/Combo - it's a lot more complicated to interface with that.
> It's essentially industrial ethernet or something and not that easy to develop
> code for. Both CHAdeMO and Super Charger are CAN based (single wire CAN for
> Tesla but still CAN). That's easier to work with and there is plenty of
hardware
> available for the job.
>
> If you're looking for the most common type, its probably the super charger but
> you don't need common, you need possible to acquire the parts and build
> something. The most likely bet there is CHAdeMO but the inlets are something
> like $1000-$1500 a piece and the plug/cord for the EVSE side is about $2500
last
> I knew. That puts you right around $4000 just for the connectors on both
sides.
> OUCH!
>
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 7:20 PM, jerry freedomev <freedo...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >         Hi Collin nd All,
> >              Since I'm not fluent in CANbus I guess I'll need a pre
> > set comm card.
> >   I'm of need of just the car side for charging though for my direct
> > solar charging I'll need the charger side at least to get access to the
pack.
> >             I'm thinking of a used inlet as likely a new one is too
> > costly if one can be found.
> >             Is CHadeMO the one that is likely to be wide spread in the
> > future 100kw and up units in the US?
> >                Thanks,
> >                      Jerry Dycus
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Collin Kidder <coll...@kkmfg.com>
> > To: jerry freedomev <freedo...@yahoo.com>; Electric Vehicle Discussion
> > List <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 5:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] DC charging handshake?
> >
> > Well, you weren't specific but you might have meant CHAdeMO DC fast
> > charging. I'm going to assume such and if that wasn't the case you'll
> > have to be more specific.
> >
> > If you need to produce the car side CHAdeMO comm then you'll need a
> > way to connect to a CAN bus and you will need two inputs and two
> > outputs. The outputs drive relays so you might want your MCU outputs
> > to go to MOSFETs. Then you need code like this:
> > https://github.com/collin80/JLD505/tree/debug
> >
> > If you need the EVSE side then you still need to speak CAN and have a
> > way to selectively provide the DC voltage (and at a variable voltage
> > too so you probably need some sort of DC/DC). I don't have existing
> > code to copy for the EVSE side.... yet. But you might be able to
> > figure out what it is expected to do by looking at the car side code.
> >
> > You can buy CHAdeMO input and plugs. The inlets are expensive. The
> > plugs are completely outrageous. Sit down before looking up the price
> > of either one. It's extremely stupid. CHAdeMO is likely to be around
> > for quite a while as there are already thousands of CHAdeMO EVSE's all
> > around the world.
> >
> > I hope that's at least somewhat helpful. It's a kind of big topic.
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 7:40 AM, jerry freedomev via EV
> > <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>            Hi All,                I'm and I'm sure many others in need of
> >> how the DC charging works so I can put it in my new EVs and make direct
> >> solar charging work.              What does the EV need to tell the DC to
> >> get power and what does the DC require from the EV?                Can one
> >> buy the inlets and which inlets are likely to be around in the
> >> future?  They seem to change every yr or so.  I've lost track as I don't
use
> them yet.
> >> With Volt modules I'll be able to charge in just 10-12 minutes if I can
> >> crack this.              And I'll, others can build solar arrays that
charge
> >> EVs directly from the panels.                Plus is the basis for V2G
> >> systems on most any DC charging equipped EV by getting excess to the pack.
> >> Any help is greatly appreciated.                  Thanks,
> >> Jerry Dycus
> >>
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