Not true.  Heatpump water heater heating at one third the electric energy
cost still beats a tankless hands down.

The only time it wouldn't is when the house with tankless is unused for
long periods.
Plus, the heatpump waater heater can run from solar and cost another half
and be emissions free.
Bob

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From: EV <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jay Summet via EV
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:48 PM
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Cc: Jay Summet <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Charging load on the grid (NOT)


On 07/26/2018 02:38 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:

> 4. Tankless demand heaters (that only heat the water when it is
> actually
> needed) are more efficient that anything you can do with a tank-type
> waterheater, regular or hybrid.

Yes, when comparing gas tankless to gas tanked heaters.

NO for Electrically operated tankless heaters vs hybrid (heat pump) water
heaters with a tank.

Most tankless heaters are gas as the electric ones require a MASSIVE
service (24-27 KW, 100+ amps) to heat water instantaneously (via a restive
element). Even with heat losses due to storage, the efficiency of an
electrically operated heat pump for heating (4x or better than a restive
element) will always beat an electrically operated restive heater.

Jay
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