This article spells it out better. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/1772182002
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 26, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Mark Abramowitz <[email protected]> wrote: > > I’m not following you. Lower emission standards are MORE costly, right? > > Even if not, I can see how you want to call it a bailout, but I guess that’s > the case with any regulatory scheme. But I never hear it called a bailout. > > As far as Tesla, it’s hard to say the impact. Up until a certain point, the > more folks out there with the new technology, everybody benefits. At some > point (have we reached it yet?), these things make a difference in the > opposite direction. > > But this is what we want, isn’t it? We’ve put in lots of incentives for > electric drive, and gee, companies are taking advantage of them! > > Weakening of other standards is another story. > > - Mark > > Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > >> On Oct 26, 2018, at 9:36 AM, paul dove <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Read between the lines. They want to have lower emission standards on their >> trucks and SUVs so it will lower the cost and increase profits to supplement >> their electric vehicle programs. Same thing as a bailout. What does that do >> to companies like Tesla. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:42 AM, Mark Abramowitz <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I appreciate the cynicism, but I find no evidence of that. >>> >>> That article is old, but I suspect that the data still applies. It says >>> nothing about a government bailout. >>> >>> So they are losing money on the Bolt. The Prius lost money for 10 years, >>> but is Toyota’s most popular car. These folks are in it for the long game, >>> and have been investing in both types of EVs. >>> >>> - Mark >>> >>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone >>> >>>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 4:04 AM, Paul Dove via EV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Of course they do because they are losing money on the bolt. Need another >>>> government bailout. >>>> https://www.inverse.com/article/32239-why-gm-loses-money-chevy-bolt >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 2:03 AM, brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-26/gm-breaks-with-trump-in-call-for-national-electric-car-mandate >>>>> GM Breaks With Trump in Call for National Electric Car Mandate >>>>> October 25, 2018 Automaker pitches U.S. rule to spur more EV sales >>>>> through >>>>> 2030 ... GM says a nationwide program could put 7 million long-range >>>>> electric cars on the road and slash 375 million tons of carbon dioxide >>>>> emissions by 2030, compared with existing zero-emission vehicle mandates >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> GM Wants Trump Administration To Back National Electric Vehicle ... >>>>> International Business Times-31 minutes ago >>>>> General Motors Co said on Friday it wants the Trump administration to >>>>> back a >>>>> nationwide program to boost the sale of zero emission vehicles like >>>>> electric >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> GM Breaks With Trump in Call for National Electric Car Mandate >>>>> Bloomberg-42 minutes ago >>>>> The Trump administration wants to end California's requirement for >>>>> automakers to sell more electric cars in the state each year. America's >>>>> biggest automaker has ... >>>>> >>>>> GM proposes nationwide zero-emissions vehicle sales mandate >>>>> WHSV-1 hour ago >>>>> California sets the requirements based on a complex formula that considers >>>>> the total number of vehicles sold by an automaker and gives credits for >>>>> fully electric ... >>>>> >>>>> General Motors CEO: We call for federal electric and zero-emission ... >>>>> USA TODAY-1 hour ago >>>>> It will create jobs through the expansion of battery and electric vehicle >>>>> research and development and production, improve the environment and make >>>>> electric ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=Breaks+With+Trump+in+Call+for+National+Electric+Car+Mandate >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2 hours ago - The Trump administration wants to end California's >>>>> requirement >>>>> for automakers to sell more electric cars in the state each year. >>>>> America's >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> GM Breaks With Trump in Call for National Electric Car Mandate ... >>>>> www.wiredfocus.com › electric cars >>>>> 51 mins ago >>>>> >>>>> GM Breaks With Trump in Call for National Electric Car Mandate ... >>>>> www.techheadlines.us › electric cars >>>>> 51 mins ago >>>>> >>>>> [dated] >>>>> Trump's rollback could zap California's electric car industry ... >>>>> https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article215984510.html >>>>> Aug 2, 2018 >>>>> >>>>> Trump is going after California's clean car mandate | TechCrunch >>>>> https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/.../trump-is-going-after-californias-clean-car-mandate... >>>>> Jul 23, 2018 >>>>> >>>>> California wants more electric cars. The Trump administration doesn't ... >>>>> www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-fuel-standards-fight-20180202-story.html >>>>> Feb 2, 2018 >>>>> >>>>> Electric Vehicles: Government Mandates Threaten Customers ... >>>>> https://www.nationalreview.com/.../electric-cars-government-mandates-threaten-custo... >>>>> Feb 26, 2018 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: >>>>> http://evdl.org/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> {brucedp.neocities.org} >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>>>> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>>>> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >>>>> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >>>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20181026/c34f74c9/attachment.html> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>>> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>>> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >>>> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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