Mark,
Why myth of quick refill? Because you need to drive 20 minutes to reach the 
nearest H2 refueling station *if* there is one in town.
Going across the street for half hour Level 3 DC Fast Charge is much quicker 
than the “convenience” of a “quick” H2 refill and the most convenient refill is 
pulling into your garage, grabbing the 240V plug and sticking it in until the 
next morning when the “tank” is again full of electrons, preferably home 
produced solar originating.
That scenario (power companies and solar home owners) taking over the lucrative 
fossil fuel industry is scaring the oil companies to no end.
Their only game is convincing authorities that H2 is the way forward and that 
is the only reason that millions are poured into building an already obsolete 
infrastructure, as there are virtually no cars able to use it now nor planned 
to use it in future. Big waste of taxpayer dollars.
But I do not need to tell you this, you know it and you reject that reality, 
we’ve been there before. You have chosen Hydrogen as the solution and are 
promoting it to absurd ends, including your Fuel cell powered cell phone!

Let’s do right to the EVDL and talk about electric cars. Ripping the H2 tanks 
and fuel cell out of a Mirai as I saw some guys do, makes it a whole lot more 
useful as daily driver and there is plenty space for batteries instead of just 
the “Hybrid” pack needed to buffer the fuel cell. But there are hundreds of EV 
models planned, so no need to convert one of the few H2 cars on the road today, 
they will be returned at the end of their lease and then it is mostly Toyota 
who will need to eat the consequences of their choice for H2. Unfortunately I 
can’t go to govt to claim my taxes back for subsidies wasted on Hydrogen 
infrastructure.

However, I can help to build the EV Charging infrastructure of the future and 
that is exactly what I am doing right now.

Regards,
Cor.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mark Abramowitz via EV
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 12:45 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: Mark Abramowitz; Lawrence Rhodes
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Toyota and the hydrogen wish.

“I think the idea is that it
takes too long to recharge an EV and that hydrogen offers the convenience
of a quick refuel; similar to an ICE refill.
This is the myth big business wants to purvey.”

This statement puzzles me.

Hydrogen DOES offer a quick refill, similar to a gasoline refill. In fact, the 
industry spent a lot to make the experience to consumers as close to a gas 
refill as possible.

Why do you think that’s a myth?

- Mark

Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I think the idea is that it
> takes too long to recharge an EV and that hydrogen offers the convenience
> of a quick refuel; similar to an ICE refill.
> This is the myth big business wants to purvey.

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