Yes. Source: California Air Resources Board staff (probably also in last year’s and/or the year before’s AB 8 Report).
The quantity is increasing, though the percentage is decreasing...for the moment..until new capacity comes on line. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Dec 28, 2018, at 10:55 AM, robert winfield <winfield...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > um, say what? > 44%? > > On Friday, December 28, 2018, 12:51:53 PM EST, Mark Abramowitz via EV > <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > Hi Darryl, > > Thanks for your comments. > > To say that I’m thrilled about the amount of renewable and zero emission > integration in Ontario would be a gross understatement. I grew up not far > from Ontario and spent great summers exploring northern Ontario wilderness. > > I know that part of the solution there is the use of hydrogen energy storage > to reduce the amount of renewables that get wasted through curtailment. > > As you can imagine, though, California is a very different place, with its > own set of challenges, particularly since 40%+ of imported goods to the U.S. > make their way through our ports. > > And our grid is very diverse, with many renewables just having come online > over the last several years. And it will take a lot to get us to 100% > renewables. Just a few years ago, it was about 29%, while hydrogen for > transportation fuels was mandated at 33% (a law I supported), making hydrogen > the ONLY transportation fuel with such a requirement. But the industry > quickly beat that requirement and beat the grid, with 44% of transportation > hydrogen being renewable. > > (And you are right, this thread is not the place to debate the merits of > hydrogen) > > Sorry if I don’t read your book, but the issues - potential, real, imagined > or fabricated - are known to me and the industry. And with a publication date > of 2006, before the time when I personally began to be involved with hydrogen > in a great way, it is badly out of date. > > What has changed? Virtually everything - with onboard storage capacity > perhaps being the LEAST of the changes. Since then, costs have significantly > dropped, power densities have increased, performance increased, and so on. > > My own Honda Clarity has all the power train components now fitting in the > engine compartment - a first. And we haven’t even gotten to the progress in > fueling technology and standards. > > And every iteration improves on everything in a significant way. > > - Mark > > Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > > > On Dec 28, 2018, at 8:10 AM, Darryl McMahon via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > > wrote: > > > > Hello Mark and all, > > > > as expected, I'm tardy with a response, and I see the discussion has moved > > on, and as already noted, shows why hydrogen is typically OT for this list. > > > > I'm not prepared to debate the merits of hydrogen as a fuel or energy store > > here. I had those debates from the late 1990s to 2006. My stance now is > > you have to read my book to continue the discussion, because the issues > > with hydrogen are many, and you have to solve all of them to have a valid > > contender. > > > > To your specific points in your last post. > > > > We have made incredible advances in greening the grid, and I have been an > > active participant in that. I charge EVs primarily in Ontario and Quebec. > > > > Quebec has zero coal, zero natural gas generation and a trivial amount of > > diesel generation for communities not connected to the North American > > continental grid. The bulk of their generation comes from big hydro, > > although small hydro, wind and PV are growing from a small foothold. > > > > All in all, over 99% electricity generation from renewables. Not by 2045. > > Today. > > > > Ontario has made significant strides in the past decade, in no small part > > due to the efforts of the Ontario Clean Air Alliance. Ontario generation > > has zero coal, 4% natural gas (shrinking), a serious amount of large hydro, > > and growing amounts of wind and PV. > > > > We're not done yet. We are seriously over-invested in nuclear and > > continuing down that wrong path. Our new government is in favour of > > dinosaur generation sources, and cancelled over 750 signed renewables > > contracts in their first month in office (breach of contract lawsuits to > > follow) and our EV purchase incentive program. Shutting down all > > coal-fired generation in Ontario is the single largest greenhouse gas > > emissions reduction project in North America to date. > > > > All in all, less than 4% generation from fossil carbon sources (natural gas > > and diesel generation in remote communities). Still, we aren't finished > > yet. Storage projects are continuing to be built to displace the need for > > the gas peaker plants. Old small hydro plants are being upgraded. Remote > > communities are being connected to the grid to eliminate the need for > > diesel generation. > > > > We have also made incredible progress in making battery electric vehicles, > > especially the battery technology, sufficient for most driving needs, > > reliable and affordable. There is excitement in that field and no > > indication the cost and storage capacity trends are going to change anytime > > soon. We are also making substantial strides in provisioning a charging > > network throughout the industrialized and industrializing world to support > > away-from-base charging, to extend the utility of battery EVs in every day > > missions. And we're working on how to continue in those directions while > > supporting, not threatening, electrical utilities and grid reliability. > > > > As for my sources on hydrogen technology, they include hydrogen proponents, > > scientists, engineers, journals in multiple fields, and various news media. > > The hydrogen skeptics don't bother poking me. And for clarity, regarding > > hydrogen, I did not say nothing has changed, I said things have not changed > > much on the technology side other than increasing on-board storage. > > > > Darryl McMahon (driving electric since 1978) > > > > > >> On 12/27/2018 11:02 AM, ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org wrote: > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:32:43 -0800 > >> From: Mark Abramowitz<ma...@enviropolicy.com> > >> To:dar...@econogics.com,Electric Vehicle Discussion List > >> <ev@lists.evdl.org> > >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation ?cleaner? > >> Message-ID:<31d037dd-aa34-425f-8e6e-b1587e84e...@enviropolicy.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >> We?ve made incredible progress over just the last few years in greening > >> the grid. > >> By 2045, it should be 100% renewable. By 2030, transportation hydrogen > >> should be 100% renewable. > >> (BTW, if you think that nothing else has changed in hydrogen technology in > >> the last several years, there is something wrong with your sources) > >> - Mark > >> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > > > > -- > >Darryl McMahon > > Freelance Project Manager (sustainable systems) > > _______________________________________________ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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