I have been communicating with a couple sellers now on Aliexpress.  Prices
seem quite varied and reviews are mixed on these batteries.  I suspect
there isn't a lot of standards or testing on actual claimed capacities.  I
would like to try a 12v pack or 2 before buying more and perform some tests
to verify capacity.  Has anyone done this testing before?  I assume the ah
rating is based on a 1amp draw for x amount of claimed hours.  So would I
hook up a 12 watt load (LED bulbs?) and watch pack voltage till it drops
till below 12v?  Or would I measure it till the BMS protection cuts in -
(9-10v?).  Some reviewers have found packs listed at 100ah capacity to
actually have only 30ah cells inside, lots of misinformation.

Thank you,
Dan

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:01 PM Jay Summet via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On 3/12/19 9:59 AM, Dan Baker via EV wrote:
>
> > If I don't charge with my Sevcons and use the included individual 12v
> > chargers, would there still be worry of connecting too many in series?
> Is
> > it charging,discharging or both the issue when connecting in series?
>
> That depends entirely upon the battery model/manufacturer and the specs
> for that specific battery.  If there is an issue, it would most likely
> be an issue for both charging and discharging.
>
> The thing to watch out for is if the batteries have a MOSFET (solid
> state switch) that is used to disconnect the battery when charging (done
> charging, voltage too high) or when discharging (voltage too low).  In
> many cases, the MOSFETS are not rated for super high voltages. It may be
> twice the working voltage or much higher (24,36 or perhaps 60 volt
> rated).  If your series pack goes above the MOSFET rating, it is likely
> to fail spectacularly (short closed in the worst case) when it is asked
> to disconnect the battery.
>
> If the batteries use relays or contractors, they may or may not be rated
> for higher series voltages, you need to verify.
>
> In short, the electronics that are making these batteries "drop in
> replacements" for a 12 volt battery are designed to work at that voltage
> level...with perhaps  a 2x or 4x safety factor (24 to 48 volts), but the
> system was not designed for high voltage (72-144 or higher) to be seen
> by the battery.
>
> The BattleBorn batteries for example use 60V electronics, and are rated
> to be used in series up to a 48 volt system (They were designed this way
> to be a drop in replacement for 12, 24, 36 and 48 volt solar power
> systems....but many "auto starter" or RV replacement batteries gave no
> thought about using more than one in series, or if they did, it was only
> up to a 24 or 48 volt level.)
>
> Jay
>
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