> I'm not sure EV charging stations will ever be as prolific as gas stations are now.
Gas stations and EV charging are apples and oranges... Gas cars REQUIRE gas stations once a week for 5 minutes. The 300 million cars are served by about 120,000 gas stations in the USA. Usually there are cars at about half the pumps and about half the time (assume zero overnight). If the average station has 8 pumps then that means 120,000 times 2 pumps times 5 minutes per day or about 20,000 refueling hours per day. What about when we get to 300M EVs? Lets assume 80% charge at home leaving 60M needing public charging. Only about 5% need interstate high speed charging (30 minutes times 12M) or 6 million high-speed recharging hours a day. Divided by 24 gives 250,000 high speed chargers needed. That leaves the 9 million needing 3 hours a day at L2 for 36 million L2 charging hours a day. Divided by 24 gives about 1,500,000 public L2 chargers. As of last year, the count was 16,000. So I say as I have always said... "anyone who buys an EV with the idea of dependence on public charging will be VERY disappointed! You will always be WAITING in line to get access to the chargter in the long run. Hopefully, once apartments and condos solve the charging at home for tenants this problem will be reduced. Anyone else have better numbers? Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From: EV <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Damon Henry via EV Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 1:46 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> Cc: Damon Henry <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [EVDL] % Google Maps is NOT a reliable tool to find EVSE % (goog-pr) I'm not sure EV charging stations will ever be as prolific as gas stations are now. There will always be a significant amount of people who charge primarily at home, so the demand will be less... Don't know if that is good or bad, but I know very few people have their own gas pumps. Damon ________________________________ From: EV <[email protected]> on behalf of EVDL Administrator via EV <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 10:39 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: EVDL Administrator Subject: Re: [EVDL] % Google Maps is NOT a reliable tool to find EVSE % (goog-pr) On 1 May 2019 at 18:53, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Presumably you tried fr.chargemap.com, not chargemap.com Thanks for pointing that out! Actually I was using chargemap.com, which starts off centered on Germany. At your suggestion I tried fr.chargemap.com, which saves lots of clicking and dragging because it's centered on France. It locates exactly the same EVSEs, which I guess makes sense. > I also found this one: > www.bornes-recharge.net<http://www.bornes-recharge.net> I have no idea if it's better. www.bornes-recharge.net<http://www.bornes-recharge.net> says "This map is provided by Chargemap." So I assume it will be the same. I guess we're all looking forward to the time when public EVSEs are as numerous and accessable as filling stations are now, and you can expect to find at least one at nearly every highway junction. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190503/e28536 68/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
