By the way, I had long used the argument that almost 70% of Americans live in single family - detached homes and so if we got 70% of Americans to drive EV's (and charge at home) we have solved 70% of the gasoline burning problem.
That is the national census number. BUT, it turns out, here in Maryland and other higher density population states, more than 50% of people live in apartments and have no access to overnight charging. So that was an eye opener for me and I had to change my tune. My tune now is CHARGING AT WORK on 120v. Just plug in every day, and pay the $30 per month for the electricity. That nicely meets the national average 40 miles a day Americans drive. Then they can use public charging for trips only. Charging is FIRST AND FOREMOST, a *PARKING* problem. Bob, WB4APR On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 2:30 PM Robert Bruninga <bruni...@usna.edu> wrote: > > I'm not sure EV charging stations will ever be as prolific as gas > stations are now. > > Gas stations and EV charging are apples and oranges... > > Gas cars REQUIRE gas stations once a week for 5 minutes. The 300 million > cars are served by about 120,000 gas stations in the USA. Usually there > are cars at about half the pumps and about half the time (assume zero > overnight). If the average station has 8 pumps then that means 120,000 > times 2 pumps times 5 minutes per day or about 20,000 refueling hours per > day. > > What about when we get to 300M EVs? Lets assume 80% charge at home > leaving 60M needing public charging. Only about 5% need interstate high > speed charging (30 minutes times 12M) or 6 million high-speed recharging > hours a day. Divided by 24 gives 250,000 high speed chargers needed. > > That leaves the 9 million needing 3 hours a day at L2 for 36 million L2 > charging hours a day. Divided by 24 gives about 1,500,000 public L2 > chargers. > > As of last year, the count was 16,000. > > So I say as I have always said... "anyone who buys an EV with the idea of > dependence on public charging will be VERY disappointed! > > You will always be WAITING in line to get access to the chargter in the > long run. > > Hopefully, once apartments and condos solve the charging at home for > tenants this problem will be reduced. > > Anyone else have better numbers? > > Bob, WB4APR > > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of Damon Henry via EV > Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 1:46 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <email@example.com> > Cc: Damon Henry <damonhe...@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] % Google Maps is NOT a reliable tool to find EVSE % > (goog-pr) > > I'm not sure EV charging stations will ever be as prolific as gas stations > are now. There will always be a significant amount of people who charge > primarily at home, so the demand will be less... Don't know if that is > good or bad, but I know very few people have their own gas pumps. > > Damon > ________________________________ > From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> on behalf of EVDL Administrator via > EV <firstname.lastname@example.org> > Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 10:39 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: EVDL Administrator > Subject: Re: [EVDL] % Google Maps is NOT a reliable tool to find EVSE % > (goog-pr) > > On 1 May 2019 at 18:53, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > > > Presumably you tried fr.chargemap.com, not chargemap.com > > Thanks for pointing that out! Actually I was using chargemap.com, which > starts off centered on Germany. > > At your suggestion I tried fr.chargemap.com, which saves lots of clicking > and dragging because it's centered on France. It locates exactly the same > EVSEs, which I guess makes sense. > > > I also found this one: > > www.bornes-recharge.net<http://www.bornes-recharge.net> I have no idea > if it's better. > > www.bornes-recharge.net<http://www.bornes-recharge.net> says "This map is > provided by Chargemap." So I assume it will be the same. > > I guess we're all looking forward to the time when public EVSEs are as > numerous and accessable as filling stations are now, and you can expect to > find at least one at nearly every highway junction. > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > EVDL Administrator > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL > Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = = = = = = = = = = > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. 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