No energy source is free. The cost is in extracting it and efficiency has a 
very narrow definition in engineering and does not include cost.

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> On Jul 18, 2019, at 10:33 AM, Lee Hart via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
>> Is solar thermal water heating *still* more efficient?
> 
> "Efficient" has a different meaning when your energy source is free. Energy 
> efficiency usually means getting the most good out of a finite source of 
> energy.
> 
> Suppose you have a limited roof area that can only collect 1 KWH of energy. 
> PV cells might convert that into 150 watts of electricity. A solar water heat 
> might convert it into 300 watts of heat in your water heater. Which is more 
> useful to you?
> 
> But most roofs are so large that the amount of solar energy available is 
> "limitless". You're limited more by what you can spend, and what appearance 
> dictates. PV is more popular than thermal because it's cheaper. The 
> efficiency is less, but you make up for it with more panels.
> 
> It's like the "ICE" solution wins. When you treat oil supplies as 
> "limitless", then extremely inefficient ICEs are the popular choice, because 
> it's cheaper.
> 
> -- 
> In software development, there are two kinds of error: Conceptual
> errors, implementation errors, and off-by-one errors. (anonymous)
> --
> Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com
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