However, if you compare the the luxury SUV’s Tesla is competing with the picture is vastly different.
It is considered a luxury car. Competing with the Mercedes GLE 580, BMW X3, Ford Expedition, GMC Yukon and the Toyota Land Cruiser. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2019, at 5:49 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On 2 Aug 2019 at 20:24, Larry Gales via EV wrote: >> >> Those sound like real world solutions to me > > I totally agree! You're describing a Tesla. > > But that's my perspective and yours, not the average US vehicle buyer's. > > The problem is that Americans overwhelmingly buy SUVs and crossovers, partly > because that's what Americans overwhelmingly buy. :-\ > > They also buy them because Americans buy, collect, and move around a heck of > a lot of stuff, and SUVs and crossovers can carry a lot of stuff. > > Now Tesla has the Model X for them. Are Americans buying Model Xs? > > An X has 26 cubic feet of cargo capacity with all 5 seats in place, and an > EPA interior volume volume of 120 cubic feet. It will go 238 miles (75D) or > 295 miles (100D) between charging stops.. > > A typical Model X price (100D) is $96k, though maybe if you twisted both > Musk's arms he'd deign to sell you the cheap model (75D) at ~$80k. > > In 2018, Americans bought 26,100 Model Xs. > > A Jeep Cherokee, in about the same size class as an X, has 36 cubic feet of > cargo capacity with all 5 seats in place, and an EPA interior volume of > 140.5 cubic feet. It will go 615 miles between refueling stops. > > A typical Cherokee price is $41,200, but you can buy a basic model for > $34,245. > > In 2018, Americans bought 239,437 Cherokees. > > To sum up, here is why Americans bought 817% more Cherokees than Model Xs in > 2018. > > 38% more cargo space > 17% more interior volume > 108% - 158% more range (that is, 2.1 to 2.6 times as far between stops) > 57% cheaper > > That's the stuff that Americans care about. They don't give a hoot about > MPG or CO2 emissions. By their standards, their big, overstuffed ICE-SUVs > are comfortable enough, safe enough, and quiet enough. They handle well > enough, and accelerate briskly enough. And the total cost of ownership just > isn't something they think much about when they're sitting in the auto > dealer listening to the salesman's pitch. > > A Tesla offers lots more prestige than a Jeep. That appeals to certain > kinds of wealthy people. But then, so does a Range Rover. > > A Tesla offers way more advanced technology than a Jeep. That appeals to > people like us, and to highly educated people in the high-tech world. > > For the average suburban family with an average income and average > education, the Jeep (or a Ford Escape, or Chevy Traverse, or Hyundai Santa > Fe, or you name it) is good enough, and it costs less - a lot less. > > That's the bottom line. > > EVs are mechanically simpler, so IMO they SHOULD cost less to buy for a > given level of utiity and appointments. They don't yet. > > Maybe someday the manufacturers will get serious about selling EVs and do > what they do with newly introduced ICEVs: sell them at a loss until they > get popular. When that happens, maybe Americans will start to buy more Evs > than they do ICEVs. We're not there yet. > > But a lot of things could change in the next few years. The US is on the > verge of starting another shooting war in the Mideast, which would probably > cause oil prices to jump. Especially if it affected the QUANTITY of fuel > available, that might suddenly make EVs a real world solution for lots more > people. > > Chinese and/or Indian EV manufacturers could flood the US with decent, > affordable EVs. That could further expand EV sales, in the same way that > the Japanese automakers expanded small, fuel-efficient ICEV sales during the > mid-1970s Mideast oil crunch.. > > The mainstream automakers might even get serious about selling EVs, > regardless of foreign competition. I don't think that's very likely, > though. > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > EVDL Administrator > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not > reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my > email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
