On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 10:35:00 -0500, Willie via EV
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>On 9/15/19 9:50 AM, Josh L via EV wrote:
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>> fwiw, I think some (but perhaps not all) of these conditions
>> exist in large portions of the North American continent.  At
>> least, near where I live, the dealers still do not sell plug-in
>> vehicles.  Yes, a few Teslas and such are popping up (though
>> very slowly) and you can go 70 miles away to go to a Chevy
>> dealer or the like for a BEV or PHEV, but it's not very close
>> by, and there is almost no public charge infrastructure.
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>Here is a suggestion.  Go to:
>https://supercharge.info/map
>set range to about 150 and turn all range circles on.  That will show 
>the areas that are farther than 150 miles from a SuperCharger.  100-150 
>miles from your home is near optimal SuperCharger siting for road trips. 
>  For a trip, you burn off some charge going in your chosen direction to 
>the nearest SuperCharger, charge, then you on on your way.
>
>You my like the dealer experience.  Most Tesla buyers much prefer doing 
>everything online.  That is, you can buy a Tesla where ever you live. 
>You may need to drive a hundred miles or more to pick up.  Or, Tesla may 
>bring your new car to you.
>
>With a ~300 mile car and home charging, you likely need no public 
>charging infrastructure.  How many days do you drive more than 200 miles 
>locally?
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Thanks Willie, I like your enthusiasm for driving a Tesla, and
there's no way for you to know that I'm already aware of the
points you make.  I'm not quite there as to being able
comfortably to affording a used Tesla, and so too I think the
same can be said of a decent portion of the citizens of North
America, but yes, I'll be getting one, probably sooner rather
than later.

I would ask if perhaps you and others, if you drive Teslas,
could start making a little bit more clear to Tesla that here in
Santa Cruz County, Arizona, on the way to Mexico from Tucson, we
have no DCFC of any sort (and we have only one proper J1772, and
that's because I partnered with someone to put it in), and if
they could see it in their hearts, it might eventualy get some
use if they could put something in (though I must admit, it's
not a major thoroughfare, and I would predict any supercharger
here will not get good use at first, so they might want to
compromise by first taking the low cost measure of working with
some hotels in Nogales, AZ to put in destination charging, and
then see how that goes.)

None of this changes what I've said.  I guess I would just
change the wording "large portions of North America" to
something like "some decent-sized areas or pockets in North
America where there are very few of the good long-range BEVs
available for purchase at dealers."  I am emphasizing the dealer
portion of this discussion because once the vehicles are
actually locally on the road, then I think it's natural for
their to be a louder chorus of local drivers who ask for public
charge infrastructure.

For example, if I go to (or call) one of the local Hyundai
dealers, so far the answer on getting a Kona BEV is "no".
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