On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 11:01:37 -0700, Josh L via EV <[email protected]> you wrote:
>On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 10:35:00 -0500, Willie via EV ><[email protected]> you wrote: >>Here is a suggestion. Go to: >>https://supercharge.info/map >>set range to about 150 and turn all range circles on. That will show >>the areas that are farther than 150 miles from a SuperCharger. 100-150 >>miles from your home is near optimal SuperCharger siting for road trips. >> For a trip, you burn off some charge going in your chosen direction to >>the nearest SuperCharger, charge, then you on on your way. >> >>You my like the dealer experience. Most Tesla buyers much prefer doing >>everything online. That is, you can buy a Tesla where ever you live. >>You may need to drive a hundred miles or more to pick up. Or, Tesla may >>bring your new car to you. >> >>With a ~300 mile car and home charging, you likely need no public >>charging infrastructure. How many days do you drive more than 200 miles >>locally? >>_______________________________________________ >>UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html >>INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) PS: two other things: 1) Yes, I think so far my dealer experience with Tesla has been pretty good, in trying to figure things out pre-sale. The transparency and reduced hassle are both better than with a regular dealer, and I like the idea of buying from Tesla directly. 2) Regarding the supercharger map you referenced, if you draw a circle around that giant blank spot in Northwestern Mexico, I am on the periphery of that circle, just inside the US, south of Tucson. I am not privy to Tesla's data as to how the decisions have been made not to install supercharging in Northwestern Mexico or Baja to this point, and there may be some good reasons, and I am not complaining. Heck, Tesla's excellent partnership work with Grupo Posadas has been largely responsible for having any decent L2 charging at all throughout vast portions of Mexico, outside of a few auto dealerships, and I was able to make use of this a few weeks ago. But, looking at the map, I just thought I'd point out the vast emptiness that is there. Yes, I'm well aware that Tesla has installed some wonderful and useful superchargers north of me that my fellow EV Association members make use of. This will be a factor in my next trade-in decision, compared to the inconsistent/unreliable (so far) EA CCS or endlessly-delayed stations that have gone in, in the same area. > >Thanks Willie, I like your enthusiasm for driving a Tesla, and >there's no way for you to know that I'm already aware of the >points you make. I'm not quite there as to being able >comfortably to affording a used Tesla, and so too I think the >same can be said of a decent portion of the citizens of North >America, but yes, I'll be getting one, probably sooner rather >than later. > >I would ask if perhaps you and others, if you drive Teslas, >could start making a little bit more clear to Tesla that here in >Santa Cruz County, Arizona, on the way to Mexico from Tucson, we >have no DCFC of any sort (and we have only one proper J1772, and >that's because I partnered with someone to put it in), and if >they could see it in their hearts, it might eventualy get some >use if they could put something in (though I must admit, it's >not a major thoroughfare, and I would predict any supercharger >here will not get good use at first, so they might want to >compromise by first taking the low cost measure of working with >some hotels in Nogales, AZ to put in destination charging, and >then see how that goes.) > >None of this changes what I've said. I guess I would just >change the wording "large portions of North America" to >something like "some decent-sized areas or pockets in North >America where there are very few of the good long-range BEVs >available for purchase at dealers." I am emphasizing the dealer >portion of this discussion because once the vehicles are >actually locally on the road, then I think it's natural for >their to be a louder chorus of local drivers who ask for public >charge infrastructure. > >For example, if I go to (or call) one of the local Hyundai >dealers, so far the answer on getting a Kona BEV is "no". >_______________________________________________ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html >INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
