Distributed generation incentive that reduces the need for grid capacity and 
maintenance?

- Mark

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> On May 20, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What is amazing to me is that Maryland offers Tax credits for Home storage
> up to $5k.  But ONLY if it is independent for b ackup and not connected to
> the grid!  Clearly their "green" guys had no clue.  I can see no
> environmental benefit to home standby batteries, compared to grid-tied peak
> supply.
> 
> Maybe one advantage is simply increased battery purchases to help bring long
> term costs down, but that is something like a 2nd or 3rd order benefit.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EV <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 9:55 AM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>
> Cc: Peri Hartman <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G
> 
> At some point, we're going to need lots of grid storage. Right now, the mix
> of wind and solar is relatively low. But as that increases, we'll need
> storage capacity to span non generative periods. During transition, we can
> still rely on natural gas power plants and others. Eventually, we'll simply
> need storage, and lots of it. There are various forms of storage, such as
> hydro, flywheel, hydrogen, or battery.
> 
> Having distributed battery storage sounds like a good part of the mix, to
> me. Whether they're individually owned or provided by the energy company,
> we'll see. Probably a bunch of options will appear. And we'll see a bunch of
> different scales of storage: homeowner, business complex, substation, energy
> plant.
> 
> Peri
> 
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> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "paul dove via EV" <[email protected]>
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "paul dove" <[email protected]>
> Sent: 20-May-20 5:03:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G
> 
>> I would consider it if I had a million mile battery also if Tesla owned the
>> battery so that when the range dropped I get it replaced free.
>> 
>> You can save a lot of money with DIY or just owning your own power
>> generation maybe in the long run but lots of people will pay more gladly if
>> someone else is in charge of keeping it operational.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 19, 2020, at 10:59 PM, Alan Arrison via EV <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> People don't care about feeding the grid, they want to be able to use
>>> their big battery to run their house when the grid goes down. Oops, this
>>> would kill sales of their powerwall.
>>> 
>>>>> On 5/19/2020 9:28 PM, evln via EV wrote:
>>>>> Here what I was going to post, read:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://electrek.co/2020/05/19/tesla-bidirectional-charging-ready-gam
>>>>> e-changing-features/
>>>>> Tesla quietly adds bidirectional charging capability for
>>>>> game-changing new
>>>>> features
>>>>> May. 19th 2020 ... Both CEO Elon Musk and cofounder and former CTO
>>>>> JB
>>>>> Straubel have expressed concerns about enabling bidirectional
>>>>> charging in
>>>>> Tesla vehicles due to the potential of accelerated battery
>>>>> degradation and
>>>>> also the moderate value with a relatively small fleet. In a recent
>>>>> filing
>>>>> with the Texas electric utility commission in which Tesla was
>>>>> responding to
>>>>> questions about how electric utilities should approach electric
>>>>> vehicles,
>>>>> the automaker summarized its view of vehicle to grid technology: ...
>>>>> https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/05/Nissan-bidirec
>>>>> tional-charging.jpg
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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