Your statement is well said - for the present time. But in the near future, with a battery that is substantially cheaper, the "stupid" statement might apply to a pretty broad sector where as now it applies only to those who can pay somewhat more and need the kind of vehicles produced.

In your case, Geroge, you might look at a Tesla Y. It's about $54K + local taxes, thus a lot cheaper than the X. Has 300+ miles range. Good interior storage space, though I don't know how it compares to an Explorer.

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From: "George Mullineaux via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Cc: "George Mullineaux" <[email protected]>
Sent: 11-Jun-20 9:02:40 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] [External] Re: Million Mile Battery

The "people will be stupid if they buy ICE" statement is exactly what keeps EV 
people and ICE people separated. I drive ICE right now because there is no one that is 
producing an EV pick-up in the US that will work on my farm. I have researched the 
possibility of converting my F250, but have not found the best solution that will not 
cost the price of another used ICE. I earn the kind of money that allows us to drive 
15-35 year old vehicles. My wife is needing another vehicle and I compared a Ford 
Explorer with a Tesla Model X that would be smaller but still close to the Explorer. 
However, $48,000 compared to $82,000 will never cause me more than a split second of 
thought. Please remember some simple courtesies when posting. Everybody is not able to 
buy a new vehicle, let alone an EV. I am part of this forum to gain insight, and I would 
rather not be insulted.


-----Original Message-----
From: EV <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark Laity-Snyder via EV
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 11:06
To: [email protected]
Cc: Mark Laity-Snyder <[email protected]>
Subject: [External] Re: [EVDL] Million Mile Battery

 >On 9 Jun 2020 at 9:52, moskowitz via EV wrote:

 Extending that lifespan is viewed as a key advance because the pack
 could be reused in a second vehicle.

This sounds great IF IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.  Still, I have some trouble
seeing such a gigantic cycle life increase as a significant advantage
for the typical EV owner.
And I would NOT bet against Tesla.  They have brought EVs into the mainstream.  
Everything they have said they would do in their first mission statement has 
come to pass.  Much of their 2nd mission statement is happening or will happen 
soon.   If they say they have a million mile battery.  I am betting they have 
such a battery.  The future will change very soon for EVs.  We will soon have 
EVs cheaper than ICEs and people will be stupid if they buy ICE (not that they 
aren't already if they have the money to buy EV).

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