Thanks, The Model Y claims 68 cu. ft, the X 88 cu. ft. and the Explorer 87.8 cu. ft. It was this comparison that moved me more to the Model X. My wife hauls farm supplies with her vehicle and will many times coordinate a trip to the grocery store at the same time. With the rear seats folded away, I have seen her completely fill her Silhouette van from front to rear. Takes me two trips to the barn with a flat bed wheel-barrow, and a dozen or more trips to the house to unload. I guess that over time, EVs will eventually be more affordable for a larger segment of the population, and the technology and design will give a wider selection of vehicles for various needs. Until then, those of us with specific needs will have to either make our own EV or continue to drive ICE. Right now, urban dwellers and commuters are the only segments of society that are being targeted with affordable EV transportation.
George Mullineaux 3rd Shift Wrench Monkey -----Original Message----- From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:04 To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: Peri Hartman <pe...@kotatko.com> Subject: [External] Re: [EVDL] [External] Re: Million Mile Battery Your statement is well said - for the present time. But in the near future, with a battery that is substantially cheaper, the "stupid" statement might apply to a pretty broad sector where as now it applies only to those who can pay somewhat more and need the kind of vehicles produced. In your case, Geroge, you might look at a Tesla Y. It's about $54K + local taxes, thus a lot cheaper than the X. Has 300+ miles range. Good interior storage space, though I don't know how it compares to an Explorer. ------ Original Message ------ From: "George Mullineaux via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: "George Mullineaux" <georgemulline...@pinnaclecorrugated.com> Sent: 11-Jun-20 9:02:40 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] [External] Re: Million Mile Battery >The "people will be stupid if they buy ICE" statement is exactly what keeps EV >people and ICE people separated. I drive ICE right now because there is no one >that is producing an EV pick-up in the US that will work on my farm. I have >researched the possibility of converting my F250, but have not found the best >solution that will not cost the price of another used ICE. I earn the kind of >money that allows us to drive 15-35 year old vehicles. My wife is needing >another vehicle and I compared a Ford Explorer with a Tesla Model X that would >be smaller but still close to the Explorer. However, $48,000 compared to >$82,000 will never cause me more than a split second of thought. Please >remember some simple courtesies when posting. Everybody is not able to buy a >new vehicle, let alone an EV. I am part of this forum to gain insight, and I >would rather not be insulted. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of Mark Laity-Snyder via >EV >Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 11:06 >To: ev@lists.evdl.org >Cc: Mark Laity-Snyder <marklai...@yahoo.com> >Subject: [External] Re: [EVDL] Million Mile Battery > > >On 9 Jun 2020 at 9:52, moskowitz via EV wrote: > >> Extending that lifespan is viewed as a key advance because the pack >> could be reused in a second vehicle. > >>This sounds great IF IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS. Still, I have some trouble >>seeing such a gigantic cycle life increase as a significant advantage >>for the typical EV owner. >And I would NOT bet against Tesla. They have brought EVs into the mainstream. > Everything they have said they would do in their first mission statement has >come to pass. Much of their 2nd mission statement is happening or will happen >soon. If they say they have a million mile battery. I am betting they have >such a battery. The future will change very soon for EVs. 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