On 21 Sep 2020 at 4:03, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Further, how compact can be an L2 ESVE ? Compact enough to put on a > utility pole ?
I'm not an expert, and what little I know mostly applies to the EU. While I know of EU EVSEs (wallboxes) that are probably small enough to be mounted on utility poles, AFAIK their installation instructions call for mounting only on the wall or on a manufacturer-supplied pedestal. I'm not aware of any 3-phase L2 EVSEs that are specifically designed to be mounted on utility poles. That said, there are some plain receptacles that might work. Again the following are for the EU. Green'Up single-phase sockets are pretty common and I would think that they could be installed on poles. However, AFAIK these are all single phase, rated for 14 amps / 3.2kW. They work fine with the "granny cables" (portable EVSEs) that come standard with most or many EU EVs. https://www.carplug.com/en/legrand-green-up-socket-14a-220v-090471-32-kw- surface-mounting https://v.gd/VG2JuR Here is a 32 amp single-phase receptacle. However, it isn't rated for installation where it's exposed to weather. Maybe it could be pole-mounted inside some kind of protective cabinet. I will have to leave that question to someone who knows EU norms. Or possibly there are weatherproof versions of these receptacles. https://www.carplug.com/en/mennekes-cee-wall-socket-32a-230v-single-phase-3p- 420 https://v.gd/OeV0Ha Here is a 32 amp 3-phase version of the above: https://www.carplug.com/en/bal-cee-wall-socket-32a-380v-three-phase-5p- bal103 https://v.gd/T0fu08 And here's a portable EVSE that will work with either of those receptacles if you get the appropriate adapter cable. It will supply up to 22kW on 3ph: https://www.carplug.com/en/nrgkick-mobile-charging-station-32a-bluetooth- type2-23-to-22kw-5m-ref-20219-v2 https://v.gd/ulvJ8n Adapters: https://www.carplug.com/en/15-accessories/s-3/manufacturer_2-nrgkick The problem is that not all EU EVs can do 3-phase AC charging. The most common one that can is the Renault Zoe, which I'm pretty sure has had 3-phase onboard charging since its 2012 introduction. FWIW, 3-phase residential power is more common in France than in some other countries. The Zoe can charge at up to 22kW on 3ph. In fact Zoe Q90 models through 2019 could do 43kW AC, though not all EVSEs supported it. That capability has now been replaced with CCS DC charging. I think the BMW I3 can also handle 22kW 3ph. Some other EVs can do 3-phase, but at only 11kW. AFAIK, this applies to the Tesla Model 3 and Peugeot E-208. There might be a few other models, but I don't think many. For faster public charging, CCS seems to be where things are headed. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = If all our bicycles turn into cars, that's a horrible figure. It would scare the world. -- Zhai Guangming, China National Petroleum Corporation = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
