On 26 Sep 2020 at 13:59, paul dove via EV wrote: > how many vehicles have a 12Kw charger on board? > Not many I suspect.
Quite a few, actually, both in terms of models and in road population. Well, not 12kW (I have no idea where you got that number), but 11kW. I think that the large road population is largely down to the Renault Zoe having 3-phase charging. Zoes have sold very well across the EU since their 2012 introduction. They charge at 22kW or 43kW, depending on model. See below (after the lists) for some comments on this. Here's a list of EVs offered in the EU with 3ph charging. US versions of them (if any) may not offer 3ph. I may also have missed some that have a 3ph charging option. Renault Zoe, 22kW (43kW for Q90 models through 2019) Smart EQ fortwo & forfour, 22kW BMW I3, 11kW or 22kW Tesla S & X, 16.5kW Tesla 3, 11kW Peugeot E-208 & E-2008, 11kW (optional) Hyundai Kona, 11kW Jaguar I-Pace, 11kW Porsche Taycan, 11kW Audi e-tron, 11kW Mini Electric, 11kW Vauxhall Corsa-e, 11kW Polestar 2, 11kW The following 3ph AC EVs aren't on sale yet, but are scheduled to be at dealers this year or next: Nissan Ariya, 22kW BMW iX3, 11kW Volvo XC40, 11kW VW ID3 & ID4, 11kW Skoda Enyaq, 11kW Fiat 500e, 11kW Vauxhall Mokka-e, 11kW Ford Mustang Mach-E, 11kW ===== The Renault Zoe is an interesting study in the old chicken-and-egg principle, and its application by a relatively forward-looking automaker, one who actually wanted their EV to succeed. 1. When they were designing the car, Renault expected that most owners would charge their Zoes primarily at home. 2. A surprising number of French homes have 3-phase power. 3. Therefore Renault gave Zoe 3-phase charging. 4. Zoe proved to be a good seller, so lots of 11kW and 22kW public charging points sprang up.* 5. With 11kW and 22kW AC charging widely available, more 3-phase 11kW+ EVs have been and are being introduced. *I know someone in a small French town who drives a Zoe. She hardly ever has to charge at home, because the supermarket and the tourist information center across from the laundromat offer free 22kW charging. :-) David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = In every country, they make fun of city. In US you make fun of Cleveland. In Russia, we make fun of Cleveland. --Yakov Smirnoff = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
