These days you can get a dual voltage L2 EVSE for about $199 from Amazon
that simply plugs into either a 120v outlet for L1, or the same unit can
plug into a 240 V outlet and provide L2.  And the EVSE box is in the line
cord.  Requires nothing more than a nail to hold it up.

https://www.amazon.com/Zencar-100-240V-Portable-Electric-Compatible/dp/B075GJK2S9/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=L2+EVSE&qid=1601056761&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&smid=ASIYMWBVZG7J0&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUE3V0haVzNYSlQ2Q1EmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA3MTc2NTUzS0VOQkI0NTczRlhJJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyOTAxOTlMSVAxVUZCWUZWWEwmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

<https://www.amazon.com/Zencar-100-240V-Portable-Electric-Compatible/dp/B075GJK2S9/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=L2+EVSE&qid=1601056761&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&smid=ASIYMWBVZG7J0&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUE3V0haVzNYSlQ2Q1EmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA3MTc2NTUzS0VOQkI0NTczRlhJJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyOTAxOTlMSVAxVUZCWUZWWEwmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl>Its16
amps at 240 and that charges about 200 miles range overnight (10 hrs).  But
the average American drives only about 40 miles a day.

Another way to look at it.  Plugged in 10 hours overnight every night for a
week is 1400 miles a week of charge.  Most people will never need that.

The only time you would need a public charge is when you drive more than
400 miles a weekend and still coming home each night.  Rare.

Bob

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:36 AM paul dove via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

> I don’t agree with your math! 120v 8 amps is 960w/h or 5 miles and hour.
> 240v 16 amps would be 3.8kw/h or 20 miles an hour. 240v at 32amps would be
> 7.6kw/h or 40 miles an hour. So the latter is the only situation where you
> would get close to charging a 100kwh battery over night.
>
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> On Monday, September 21, 2020, 11:13 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <
> ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>
> That's pretty decent. Even a 100kW battery would charge overnight, more
> or less. Do you know how the handle the financial aspect ?
>
> Further, how compact can be an L2 ESVE ? Compact enough to put on a
> utility pole ?
>
> Peri
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> >Not only in Amsterdam.
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> >*All through the country* there are public charging stations in every part
> >of town. Every few streets, even in suburbs, have a small metal pole with
> 2
> >sockets where you can charge at 11kW (16 Amps, 230V/400V 3-phase) or even
> >22kW (32 Amps).
> >
> >Not just near the strip malls or city centers, I mean in the residential
> >streets, every few blocks has a charging pole. Because there are few
> garages
> >and driveways, most people have streetside parking only, so the many EV
> >owners (some tax rates are reduced to zero for EVs) will park at the
> >charging nearest their home and leave the car charging during the evening
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