Those caveats pretty much sum up my daily driving experience in Northern Virginia.
-Steve > On Mar 12, 2021, at 1:15 AM, Haudy Kazemi via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Cost is a factor but it alone does not always win the day. After all, if > up-front and operating costs were the only winning factors, we might all be > driving heavily depreciated Gen 2 Priuses (with catalytic converter > shields), with 200k miles on the odometer. > > Many of us value the various benefits of EVs. Some of us also value > advanced driver assist features, including those Tesla is developing under > the names 'Autopilot' and 'Full Self Driving (FSD)'. > > With FSD, Tesla is selling access to a software product they are actively > developing and that remains feature incomplete. IMO, Tesla has a track > record of eventually delivering most of what they promise, although their > schedules are prone to slippage. Autopilot and FSD have no effect on the > ability to manually drive the vehicle, and when in use, the driver can take > over at anytime if they want to do so. > > > >> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 13:26 EVDL Administrator via EV <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On 11 Mar 2021 at 16:36, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: >>> >>> Tesla lawyers recently admitted the $10,000 option that Tesla >>> sells as Full Self-Driving Capability is not, in fact, capable of full >>> self-driving. >> >> Good grief. Completely apart from the outright deception here - ten >> thousand dollars! In some places you can buy an ENTIRE CAR for $10k. >> >> I'm not talking about some third world nation here. Granted, it's not an >> EV, and it's a bit spartan, but in the EU the Dacia Logan starts at 8400 >> euros (US$9996). >> >> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey >> >> To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my >> offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt >> >> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >> What has allowed so many psychopathic personalities to rise >> so high in corporations, and now in government, is that they >> are so decisive. Unlike normal people, they are never filled >> with doubts, for the simple reason that they cannot care what >> happens next. >> >> -- Kurt Vonnegut >> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >> >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ >> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210311/9dd95480/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
