Mark, I've read your comments and if FCEVs are 7 years behind BEVs like you printed, what is going to propel them past BEVs? In what sort of timeframe?
All the major automakers (even Toyota is acknowledging they may have made a mistake) have announced they are going to BEVs. They are putting their research dollars, yen, euros, and yuans into battery, motor, and charger development. I go out to Plugshare and there are close to 2 dozen independent recharging station companies out there. Here is a map of just the level 3 chargers: https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/hydrogen_locations.html#/find/nearest?fuel=ELEC&ev_levels=3 I don't see that sort of commitment with respect to hydrogen refueling stations. The ones I do see are Big Oil demos hyping hydrogen in very limited areas. Here is a map of the hydrogen refueling stations: https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/hydrogen_locations.html#/find/nearest?fuel=HY&ev_levels=3 Frisco, LA, Vancouver, and one in Quebec The motels are all putting in Tesla & J1772 L2 (mostly) to L3 chargers. So are a number of gasoline stations. Our local Sheetz chain hosts a number of Supercharger stations. EVgo has opened it 800th fast charging station: https://www.cspdailynews.com/fuels/evgo-opens-its-800th-fast-charging-location and that is over a year and a half ago. Have they ever gotten past using platinum in the fuel cell stack? I've looked at your arguments but I don't see hydrogen anywhere in the near to even distant future. The overwhelming evidence is that we are going to BEVs. On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 3:32 PM Mark Abramowitz via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > I guess no one sees *any* advantages? I wonder why? Is everyone using the > same 20 year old information that some are using? Believing some of the > myths? Are people afraid that if they list something they will be attacked > or bullied by a few who do that here? > > It’s very odd that absolutely no one answered your question about > advantages. > > - Mark > > Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > > > On Aug 17, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Peter VanDerWal via EV <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > What, exactly, do people see as the advantage(s) of a FCEV over a BEV? > > > > There are tons of disadvantages, higher cost to build, higher cost to > operate, lower efficiency, no existing infrastructure, etc.; so what is the > big advantage that would make them worth while? > > _______________________________________________ > > Address messages to [email protected] > > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210819/6e62503f/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
