I believe V2H WILL be TREMENDOUS selling point.
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 10:08 paul dove via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, that is a little presumptuous. I never claimed no one needed it. > I claimed it wold not be a selling point for EV's. Not enough people are in > that situation to make a difference in sales. Besides my vehicle was > $78,000. I believe a house backup system can be purchased for much less > than this amount. I admit I haven't researched the number of power outages > and could be wrong but it seems implausible to me. Rural areas probably > have more outages but then they are left likely to buy an EV for any reason. > On Sunday, October 3, 2021, 9:29:58 PM CDT, Tim Economu via EV < > [email protected]> wrote: > > " I said that. Lost power for three days back in the 90's when a tornado > blew through. Not worth investing a lot of money for 3 days every 25 > years." > > That seems like a quaint world view to me. "I don't need it so no one else > does either" . > > We have lived in rural America for the past 40 years and power is not so > consistent in a lot of places here in the US. We lose power every year > numerous times, for varying amounts of hours and days. I don't use fossil > fuels much anymore, so backup generators are not an option, and are a poor > option for those that do use fossils in my opinion. But I do have solar > power and a small battery bank, so recharging during a power outage is > possible and is necessary if we want to maintain power for > water,refrigeration, electronics, and fresh air inside our passive house. > > To have an EV that will provide not only transportation but occasional > power is not a little thing, it's huge. Especially if you can recharge > during the sunny day. To have jobsite power is even bigger. > > I do realize that it might be something that some people do not think is > worth spending money. But there are a lot of us out here that it would be > worth spending quite a lot of for that option. If it came as part of the > package, all the better. > > I happen to believe that vehicle to grid is a game changer, kind of like > Level 5 autonomy will be a game changer. > Tim Economu > Whidbey Island > > On 10/3/2021 1:07 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send EV mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of EV digest..." > > > > > > Also, please be careful not to append the entire digest to your reply. > Many mail systems do this by default. Trim or delete the digest text from > the bottom of your message, and quote only the parts to which you're > replying. > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Include in events: "EV to power your home" (Peter VanDerWal) > > 2. Re: Include in events: "EV to power your home" (Robert Bruninga) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 16:58:46 +0000 > > From: "Peter VanDerWal" <[email protected]> > > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Include in events: "EV to power your home" > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > >> I said that. Lost power for three days back in the 90's when a tornado > blew through. Not worth > >> investing a lot of money for 3 days every 25 years. > > I agree it's not worth buying an EV JUST to use it as a backup power > source. However, most people buy EVs to drive. When deciding which EV to > buy, one that has the capability of powering your house in an emergency > situation might just be a deciding factor for many people. > > > > FWIW I moved my critical loads (Fridge/Freezer, HVAC, etc.) to a new > subpanel with a transfer switch so that I could power my critical loads > from my EVs during a power outage. > > Once we go off-grid this setup will allow me to get by with a smaller > house battery. Even if we get an extended period of low sunshine, either of > my EVs could power my critical loads for a week or two, which is more than > long enough wait out the stormy weather. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 14:25:42 -0400 > > From: Robert Bruninga <[email protected]> > > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Include in events: "EV to power your home" > > Message-ID: > > <CALdCfNJnKbk8DRQo=n_xg9wmdcdgmgc0fxhq54qombuyh2n...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > I believe we have discussed this and that you do have some kinda > > justification for "going off grid", but for others, it makes no economic > > sense to me.If I generate all my power, I am still perfectly happy to > > pay $8 a month for keeping the grid accouint. Kinda like > > insurance.. > > > > The last thing I want to do in life is maintain batteries for the > > rest of my life. Out of the blue I took a life changing hit in my > > health and cannot possibly maintain all the special "features" > > I have built into the house for "fun" but now, impossible to > > maintain by my wife. I am an ardent DIY guy, but now am > > a CDIMA (Cant do it myself Anymore). - Bob > > > > On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 12:58 PM Peter VanDerWal via EV > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> I said that. Lost power for three days back in the 90's when a tornado > blew through. Not worth > >>> investing a lot of money for 3 days every 25 years. > >> I agree it's not worth buying an EV JUST to use it as a backup power > source. However, most people buy EVs to drive. When deciding which EV to > buy, one that has the capability of powering your house in an emergency > situation might just be a deciding factor for many people. > >> > >> FWIW I moved my critical loads (Fridge/Freezer, HVAC, etc.) to a new > subpanel with a transfer switch so that I could power my critical loads > from my EVs during a power outage. > >> Once we go off-grid this setup will allow me to get by with a smaller > house battery. Even if we get an extended period of low sunshine, either of > my EVs could power my critical loads for a week or two, which is more than > long enough wait out the stormy weather. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Address messages to [email protected] > >> No other addresses in TO and CC fields > >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > >> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > [email protected] > > For general EVDL support, see http://evdl.org/help/ > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of EV Digest, Vol 108, Issue 3 > > ********************************** > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20211004/d70635d5/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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