Hmmmmm....would gas stations refuse to give gas to salvaged cars because the gas station might "burn down"?
On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 04:15:20 PM PST, paul dove via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: That is not bricking a car! It will charge just not on. Supercharger. This is to protect superchargers from burning down not to prevent repairs. Like it or not they own the superchargers. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, December 11, 2022, 2:32 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: Paul, I may have overstated my claim. But here's a partially relevant reference: https://electrek.co/2020/02/12/tesla-disables-supercharging-salvaged-vehicles/ where Tesla has disabled supercharging on salvaged Teslas. I don't know if they are still doing that. Regardless, my main point is Tesla (and others) *could* brick cars or certain functionality. But I don't think they will because of enormous public backlash. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> ------ Original Message ------ From: "paul dove" <dov...@bellsouth.net> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: "Peri Hartman" <pe...@kotatko.com> Sent: 11-Dec-22 11:14:10 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Goodbye old friend. >How in the world would you know Tesla bricks batteries? Gives some >names and sources of you facts! > > >Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone ><https://more.att.com/currently/imap> > >On Sunday, December 11, 2022, 10:53 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ><ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > >>There's lots of malaise Tesla - and all the manufacturers, for that >>matter - could impose. For example, certain sensors could "stop >>working" >>after some particular time. Or, the right rear door lock could stop >>functioning properly. In the worst case, they could brick the car. It >>may be difficult to determine whether such problems are caused by a >>software disabling action or if something actually failed. However, I >>am >>not too concerned. If a manufacturer actually imposed such behaviors, >>and were caught, they would be heavily punished. And, that would be >>regardless of what the fine print in the purchase agreement said. >> >>I am aware that Tesla has bricked cars, or at least batteries put into >>non Tesla cars. It does get into a grey area: what modifications are >>you >>allowed to do and what not ? Different discussion. >> >>I understand, from the manufacturer's point of view, that they want >>and >>need to control the software in the car. For the most part, I think >>that's an advantage to all of us. The problem is, we have to trust >>them >>to not do anything to break functionality in the future. Time will >>tell, >>I guess. >> >>Peri >> >><< Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> >> >>------ Original Message ------ >>From: "John Lussmyer via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >>To: "Mr. Sharkey via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >>Cc: "John Lussmyer" <cou...@casadelgato.com> >>Sent: 11-Dec-22 08:29:19 >>Subject: Re: [EVDL] Goodbye old friend. >> >> >On 12/11/2022 8:18 AM, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: >> >>Oh sure, I get that. Problem is, they came on at first promising >>affordable transportation. Then the Musk-cult mentality took over, and >>now they produce high-end vehicles for people with disposable income >>who don't mind laying it out for something most of the rest of us >>can't -or won't- afford. >> >So you are saying that they should first produce a cheaper very low >>profit margin vehicle - so that they won't have enough cash to grow >>production at a high rate and be able to product a LOT more vehicles? >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org >> >No other addresses in TO and CC fields >> >HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ >> > >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org >>No other addresses in TO and CC fields >>HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20221211/70e6b8bf/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20221211/2f5066a5/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20221212/8e1bd026/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
