On 20 Jan 2023 at 2:26, Ryan Fulcher via EV wrote: > there likely wouldn't be any BEVs for sale from any OEMs were it not > for Tesla forcing them into this market.
That again strikes me as US-centric. Tesla's luxury-EVs-first strategy worked surprisingly well in the US, but flopped in Europe. Ten years ago, Europeans just weren't all that interested in a big, heavy, 6-figure-plus luxury EV. The car that showed Europe what was possible with EVs was the Nissan Leaf's cousin, the Renault Zoe. The Zoe was the EU's EV sales leader for nearly a decade, thanks in part to being the right size for the time - it was a B-segment supermini - and thanks especially to its leased battery. That allowed a very reasonable purchase price (20,700 euros in 2012), and also negated buyer concerns about battery life. I'd agree that Tesla's example drove range competition worldwide, but IMO production EVs would have succeeded in the EU even if Tesla had never existed. Now, when European production EVs would have spread from the EU to the US is another question. I doubt that US buyers would have had much interest in an EU-style supermini, so it might have taken a few years. Today, though, EU automakers are pushing EVs closer to the US preference for bloated, overweight (and more profitable) vehicles. So I'd agree that you can probably give at least some credit to Tesla for production EVs' current availability in the US. But I don't think it's accurate or fair to say that no OEMs would have offered EVs without Tesla. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = If economists wished to study the horse, they wouldn't go and look at horses. They'd sit in their studies and say to themselves, "What would I do if I were a horse?" -- Ely Devons = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
