Mark specifically said software, but if the orig poster meant Hardware, and that Tesla should sell models without the hardware for FSD, Enhanced Autopilot, Seat heating, Premium connectivity, etc, then I would think that would make the cars much more expensive. For example, instead of having one steering system that would accommodate all the Tesla variations and needs only to be OTA software updated to upgrade from one level to another, you'd have several distinctly different system. So you'd have different softwires, different hardwires, increased shipping and stocking cost, increased production costs for different builds etc. Sort of defeating the point of an affordable car.
I sort of think that my Tesla is like a swiss army knife, and we all know how popular they and their off shoots have become. I don't need the scissors until I need to cut something, so I just unfold them, use them and put them away when I don't need them, just like I do with the other blades. And the same is true with a Tesla, when I need the FSD, I pull down on the steering wheel lever, use it, otherwise is invisible and not in any way a problem. If I want to use the map features of the center console, I just tap an icon and there it is, true I have to pay an extra $10 or so a month, but along with all the other enhances I get, it is well worth it. Best regards, Rush Dougherty TucsonEV www.TucsonEV.com > -----Original Message----- > From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of (-Phil-) via EV > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2024 3:22 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> > Cc: (-Phil-) <p...@ingineerix.com> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Rental giant Hertz dumps EVs, including Teslas > > He means not including the hardware. All cars get the same hardware. > They can't do this because the other driver assistance features (Automatic > Emergency Braking, etc), are delivered by the same Autopilot ECU. (Tesla > calls the APE) Also included is the GPS receiver used for navigation, and > the rear camera used for the (now required) RV camera function. > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 11:04?AM John Blair via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 13, 2024, at 10:29 AM, Mark E. Hanson via EV > > > <ev@lists.evdl.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > It would also be nice if Tesla made a non-self driving "Autopilot" > > > less > > car > > > - and sell for less $$. > > > > As far as I know, all of the Tesla's are available without the Full > > Self Driving and Autopilot software. Since you have to pay extra for > > those features, they are cheaper. Maybe you meant something different? > > > > > > John > > John Blair > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev- > evdl.org/attachments/20240114/e3b2e53d/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. > www.avg.com _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
