Agreed, and this is why Tesla doesn't do this, as well as only offering
only a few mechanical variants or each model.

On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 3:32 PM Rush via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

> Mark specifically said software, but if the orig poster meant Hardware,
> and that
> Tesla should sell models without the hardware for FSD, Enhanced Autopilot,
> Seat
> heating, Premium connectivity, etc, then I would think that would make the
> cars
> much more expensive. For example, instead of having one steering system
> that would
> accommodate all the Tesla variations and needs only to be OTA software
> updated to
> upgrade from one level to another, you'd have several distinctly different
> system.
> So you'd have different softwires, different hardwires, increased shipping
> and
> stocking cost, increased production costs for different builds etc. Sort
> of
> defeating the point of an affordable car.
>
> I sort of think that my Tesla is like a swiss army knife, and we all know
> how
> popular they and their off shoots have become. I don't need the scissors
> until I
> need to cut something, so I just unfold them, use them and put them away
> when I
> don't need them, just like I do with the other blades. And the same is
> true with a
> Tesla, when I need the FSD, I pull down on the steering wheel lever, use
> it,
> otherwise is  invisible and not in any way a problem. If I want to use the
> map
> features of the center console, I just tap an icon and there it is, true I
> have to
> pay an extra $10 or so a month, but along with all the other enhances I
> get, it is
> well worth it.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rush Dougherty
> TucsonEV
> www.TucsonEV.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of (-Phil-) via EV
> > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2024 3:22 PM
> > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> > Cc: (-Phil-) <p...@ingineerix.com>
> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Rental giant Hertz dumps EVs, including Teslas
> >
> > He means not including the hardware.   All cars get the same hardware.
> > They can't do this because the other driver assistance features
> (Automatic
> > Emergency Braking, etc), are delivered by the same Autopilot ECU.  (Tesla
> > calls the APE)   Also included is the GPS receiver used for navigation,
> and
> > the rear camera used for the (now required) RV camera function.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 11:04?AM John Blair via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > On Jan 13, 2024, at 10:29 AM, Mark E. Hanson via EV
> > > > <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It would also be nice if Tesla made a non-self driving "Autopilot"
> > > > less
> > > car
> > > > - and sell for less $$.
> > >
> > > As far as I know, all of the Tesla's are available without the Full
> > > Self Driving and Autopilot software.  Since you have to pay extra for
> > > those features, they are cheaper.  Maybe you meant something different?
> > >
> > >
> > > John
> > > John Blair
> > >
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