Sending my warm wishes for success for your clients and for you dear Jean 
Francois (sorry don’t know how to make the “right” c 😊)

Yesterday I was facilitating nice OST with 400 people. On thing I noticed was 
the relaxed atmosphere, I think partly from that this organization experienced 
OST once before, just before the glitch for much in-person work. Conversations 
were happening all over the place as well as in the defined topic groups.
Finally we had 16 action teams forming. Next up is a follow up meeting with the 
top leaders then another one with leaders and those responsible for actions and 
then I will give a half day training to support action leaders to facilitate 
the work with their respective action.

I don’t think I can add photos here but I posted a few photos from the 
room/preps on my LinkedIn profile , welcome to connect there if we aren’t.
www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult<http://www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult>
All the best
Thomas


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Hello All,
And thank you all for great contributions to this discussion.
Even though I am not exactly young (anymore) I qualify as "junior" as far as 
OST is concerned.
I am actually in the process of starting an entrepreneurial venture which 
incorporates the use of OST. Unlike Thomas, I have not chosen to start blank 
but to take an indirect approach. I hope I do not get stuck like some of his 
consultant colleagues 🤞. My initial strategy is to start doing consulting work 
in Project Management which is one of my core competencies and what I am known 
for in my network. Having a network, even small (mine is not particularly big) 
is key to any consulting work. And OST consultancy is no exception. So for a 
young entrepreneur with no network the first focus should be to build one.
My aim is to incorporate 3 aspects in my work : 1) Project Management in the 
classical sense, 2) Introducing new types of organisational structures and 
tools centered around collaboration and self management and 3) work on the less 
tangible aspects of organisational life (trust, well being, emergent mindset, 
...). As I said, I am qualified for 1). For 2)  I am competent but need to hone 
my skill and 3) is something I am currently developing. My strategy is to start 
doing work in project management to a) develop my network further b) pay the 
bills ; while in parallel continue developing my capacity in the other aspects. 
I also hope that once I am working within an organisation I'll be able to 
understand that organisation's transformative need and propose a solution. I 
assume that being already known will be an advantage..
So what's the link with OST? Well for one it is one of the methods / tools that 
I will use. More importantly, and it is what transpires from the comments from 
Birgitt, Thomas and Peggy, the spirit of OST is a common thread in my approach. 
I am not here to tell clients how to run their project or build their 
organisation but rather to facilitate a process where they can build that 
themselves. The beauty of that is the sustainability / regeneration aspect that 
Birgitt mentioned. Once the organisation has acquired this mindset and the 
tools that go with it, they can carry on on their own. OST is one of the tools 
but it is not just a tool. As everybody on this listserv knows, it is also a 
trigger to open peoples' mind to other ways of working and relating to one 
another. You might say that this is a terrible business model because once the 
organisation is autonomous, it does not need a consultant any longer. But of 
course that would be contrary to the very spirit of OST which is about sharing 
and as Thomas mentioned it brings its own rewards somehow. I believe that a 
business model centered around bringing value to clients (rather than money to 
the consultant) is the best business model you can have.
My consulting journey is just beginning (I have signed my first client just 
last Friday!🎉) so all I can share so far is hopes and dreams. But just like 
others have shared many times, my first experience with OST in Bilbao last year 
was life changing and pivotal to help me tune into what I believe is the right 
posture to embark into my consulting career ; towards, indeed, a good and 
fulfilling life.
Cheers for now,
JF


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On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 7:43 PM Peggy Holman via OSList 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Oh Thomas, so beautifully, thoughtfully offered.

I find many parallels to my own journey. Now that I think about it, I know a 
number of people who left stable employment to start their own business when 
they ran into Open Space. It is part of my story too. Having a partner with 
another source of income made the ups and downs of finding work easier to 
navigate.

The core of my practice is Open Space, not just the process but as a philosophy 
and life practice. At its heart is the invitation to take responsibility for 
what you love as an act of service. I fell in love with Open Space because in 
my first experience with it, I saw something I didn’t know was possible: the 
needs of individuals and the system can both be met. I used to think one or the 
other had to be sacrificed. Now I know that when both are met it is because the 
spaciousness has enabled something novel to emerge.

Appreciative Inquiry (AI) and Circle process/dialogue are important companions 
that inform the way I work. AI, because I found that when people share their 
stories, they discover what is most deeply personal is also universal and they 
connect. AI influenced me in learning to craft questions, notably calling 
questions for Open Space gatherings, that focus on imagining possibilities. And 
Circle because it shifts our form of discourse from debate to dialogue - from 
advocacy to inquiry. When we are in inquiry with each other, our differences 
are instrumental in discovering breakthroughs. In Open Space, dialogue 
naturally shows up. Circles remind me that we all make contributions to the 
whole.

Like Thomas, I partner with others as co-creators when the task is complex. In 
fact, I prefer working with others, particularly when they come from a 
different world view. I find it better equips us to be of service to clients. 
Actually, diversity is one other element that is core to how I work. Given our 
purpose, what is the diversity of a system? How can we grow partnerships that 
reflect that diversity to do the work? (I love a rubric from Marv Weisbord and 
Sandra Janoff: invite the people who ARE IN. With Authority, Resources, 
Expertise, Information, and Need. And then I consider what demographics are 
relevant to a situation through a lens from the Maynard Institute for 
Journalism Education. They call them fault lines: gender, geography, 
generation, race, class, and sexual orientation. They also have two “fissures" 
that I think are currently full blown fault lines: religion and political 
orientation. Recently, I’ve also added able-ness to the demographic lenses to 
consider.)

Finally, I have let what calls to me — what resonates with my sense of purpose 
— lead. Calling led me to journalism following a shooting at a Jewish Community 
Center in 1999. (I thought to myself: The stories that we tell ourselves shape 
the way we see the world. And that shapes our actions. Journalists are cultural 
storytellers. How might what I know be of service? It makes me so sad that the 
epidemic of gun violence has only gotten worse since then.)

Back to my consulting journey...In the beginning, I took work to pay the bills 
so that I could volunteer my time for the work I do with journalism. Over time, 
working with journalism became my central focus. That, and writing about what I 
was learning about change and disruption in social systems, like organizations 
and communities.

Perhaps that is what I can add to Thomas’ wonderful reflection on the path of 
walking in Open Space: what it has been like to have both a group process focus 
and a content focus - journalism.  I have wondered sometimes if having that 
dual focus and generally keeping them separate has made me less effective with 
them both. Would I have been more effective choosing one or the other? I would 
describe my split callings as
1) a focus on practices that liberate human spirit so that people discover they 
belong by being their unique selves and
2) reimagining journalism for strong, inclusive communities and democracies.

For the first, it has often led me to writing — The Change Handbook, Engaging 
Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity. In fact, I don’t think I’ve 
mentioned on the list a recent article: Emergent Design for Generative 
Change<https://peggyholman.medium.com/emergent-design-for-generative-change-78571485daaa>,
 published in the Organization Development Review. The writing has been my way 
to figure out what I have learned and share it.

My journalism work has involved bringing an Open Space philosophy to a culture 
that puts high value on facts, too often without sufficient context to give 
them meaning. The Open Space-centered gatherings Journalism That 
Matters<https://journalismthatmatters.org/events/> has done over the years has 
helped foster a branch of journalism that gets called “engaged journalism.” It 
hasn’t made it to how national news is done but it has attracted a number of 
practitioners working locally, mostly, but not entirely in the U.S. An 
interesting finding on that: when journalists start engaging with community, 
their storytelling becomes more constructive. And for journalists who start 
from doing more constructive journalism, largely influenced by an organization 
called Solutions Journalism Network, they become better at listening and 
engaging with community. It is a virtuous cycle that is becoming more 
explicitly understood of late. In fact, Journalism That Matters is co-hosting a 
gathering in August, Open Space at its center, that is bringing the networks of 
engaged journalists and solutions-oriented journalists and others together to 
discover the deeper patterns in their work and share them with an intent of 
accelerating the adoption of inclusive, constructive, collaborative, and 
engaged ways of doing journalism.

Anyway, at the heart of what I have learned is, for me, the essence of Open 
Space: taking responsibility for what I love.

If nothing else, it makes for a good, fulfilling life.

Peggy






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On Apr 15, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Kári and thanks for your clarification (also Marc 😊)
I agree with Birgitt that its often possible to find a “bigger” or deeper 
purpose. Anyhow I still quite often work with organizations to get going on a 
specific issue or opportunity.
I started my own business 23 years ago from being in love with Open Space 
Technology and feeling a passion to let more people have a taste and maybe 
choose to continue using it. I had a quite big network and this beautiful 
process to offer the world. I thought it would be “a piece of cake” but it took 
about a year of working full time as a freelancer to start to have a stable 
income… Through the years I had some downs but mostly I have been able to make 
a good living from it.

I was so extremely lucky that I got support from the organization I chose to 
leave, it was downsizing and those who chose to leave got some support to find 
new ways… I could keep my salary for 6 months and I also had money to attend 
different trainings – with Harrison and also to go through most of the Genuine 
Contact program! On top of that I had another 6 months with support from the 
Employment Agence – for new startups…! It was of course really helpful to be 
able to focus 100% to get going. Well that “luck” is not there for everyone and 
not having other income or having to spend part of your time doing other work 
makes a bit harder I guess. I am grateful for this opportunity I got and took!

If I think of some of the success factors I can see these for me are:

  *   I started “blank” – didn’t do other consulting work, so my focus was very 
clear from the beginning. I have met other consultants who have a lot of other 
methods and tools and keep getting assignments from their old business that 
they want to leave. Some of them seem to be stuck.
  *   I found a holistic way of working all through all interactions with my 
clients, when I learnt the components of the Genuine Contact program, 
especially Whole Person Process Facilitation was for me a perfect match to OST. 
Since then I work from the same approach all through my assignments. I’ve 
facilitated in circle ever since and kept on learning until now and onwards.

     *   The focus on solid pre-work and follow ups I find lead to good 
“results” and also costs more time/money. This has kept growing which in my 
view has many benefits to the client by being better prepared and attending to 
the follow up better. For me it has been about opening space for them to 
reflect on where they want to go respectively afterwards on what happened and 
how they want to move on. Several exposures to co-creative ways of working, 
sometimes inhouse trainings supporting them to continue on this path.

  *   I started giving trainings already a couple of years after having “met” 
OST and GC. Some people warned me as they perceived that I train competitors. 
It is very clear to me that by spreading knowledge about OST more work came my 
way and keeps on coming.
  *   I connected to the OST, GC, AoH (Art of Hosting) communities among 
others. Including attending/arranging learning exchanges and learning on the 
lists like this.
  *   I have been trying to be generous in different ways.
  *   I have done my best to get well paid for the high quality I deliver. 
Several of my collegues were “impressed” that I charged as much as I do. It is 
partly connected to the time I put into supporting my clients before and after 
an OST. Some of these collegues sadly went out of business not being able to 
have enough income.
  *   I love my work, I love people, I love myself 😊
  *   I’ve kept on learning and growing personally through many different paths 
for my own development. I am my most important “tool”.
  *   I run my own company, cooperate with others who have their own company – 
this has worked fine for me.
  *   I have taken help with financials, book keeping etc that I don’t enjoy.
  *   My focus is more on being of service and doing the work I love than 
getting rich
  *   I attend to my own health and balance
  *   I’ve shared stories on different forums such as social media
  *   I know how to facilitate as well online as in-person
  *   It is also helpful that my wife has a steady income from employment, Mia 
is a teacher, thank you <3

Some learnings

  *   Sometimes I spent much time planning new ways to cooperate with others. I 
think it has sometimes not been so fruitful when it comes to business. If its 
about getting more business (doing the work I love) it may be better to find a 
project and do it. I think its much easier if it’s a person who has same values 
and good knowledge about the ways I want to work with clients.
  *   It’s not so easy to offer open trainings, but it gives good exposure and 
spreads the word and comes back to me – and its fun and very rewarding in many 
ways, to give trainings.
  *   I walk my talk. I don’t come into organizations and give lectures about 
how I work. I offer them an experience of a well facilitated circle.
  *   I’ve consistently worked from the same approach – opening space for 
co-creation using different methods. I searched until I found what methods that 
suited me, then focused on that and still being curious of “new” ways.
  *   Being part of the Genuine Contact Organization gives me many 
opportunities to practice and apply what I “teach”. I’ve taken many 
opportunities volunteering to facilitate different processes. Much of that I 
have taken out to my client work.

What worked for you?

I wish we can support each other to share our gifts in the world, they are 
greatly needed. I have a strong belief that every time we open space in a well 
facilitated circle (using whatever “method” – the world becomes a better place.

With love
Thomas Herrmann

Från: Marc C. Trudeau 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Skickat: den 11 april 2023 15:14
Till: Kári Gunnarsson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Kopia: Thomas Herrmann 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; OSList 
(email to post) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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Carrier >>> Career      ;-)

On Apr 11, 2023, at 8:50 AM, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


Open Space Thecnology as a carrier?
Advise and experience


... This is how I would have written it on a paper in an opening circle

I think it clarifies what I am meaning with this theme



On Tue, 11 Apr 2023, 10:54 Thomas Herrmann, 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Kári, I don’t understand the question. stories on how OST … “as engagement 
for a junior individual has value for their professional life”
Can you explain a bit more so I might understand better?
All the best
THomas

Från: Kári Gunnarsson via OSList 
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Skickat: den 11 april 2023 12:02
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I remember many discussion groups at various ononos events where a young new 
face had ambition and wanted to explore if this field can work as the sole 
foundation for their professional life. But the stories of success in that 
regard is from people who already have a good professional network in place in 
one or another field and promoted themselves to  management consultancy in that 
field where they had an opportunity to bring the wonders and promises of Open 
Space Thecnology to their industry and sometimes also provide the same service 
to other industries through the general management connection. I have not 
conducted any research into the professional development of Open Space 
Thecnology Hoasts, Coaches and Facilitators, these are antidotal at best.

I am looking now for stories on how Open Space Thecnology as engagement for a 
junior individual has value for their professional life. This is my topic 
invitation in this thread. I would also love to engage in a conversation on 
this topic from different angles.

Kari

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