Thanks Michael and Bhav,

No doubt, I've a lot to learn with all this. So far, I've ran one OS online
with 30 people for 2 hours, around a familiar topic, spreading Restorative
Practices. As to the event next week, it's a bit of an experiment really.
The person hosting it is hoping for anything really, so there is no
expectation or pressure (which is a nice way to start).

My hope is that people are engaged enough to see the need for a longer
session with more people invited. It's a community who are rarely asked for
their thoughts and who have become used to being the recipient of services,
so hopefully this is a different experience where they are asked to come up
with issues, topics and ideas. That's the hope anyway.

Thanks again,

Joe

On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 5:53 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Bhav,
>
> when folks approached me with such a time volume I spoke to them about
> what they could expect with half a day, a full day, two days and three days.
> For some reasons, they were not very excited with what I promised them
> with a half day event and in most cases rescheduled and had one day events
> or even more.
>
> Here are two summaries of the various lengths in my practice in 167 events
> that I researched back in 2008 or thereabouts
>
> 1
> Length of open space events
>
> Twenty different lengths and differently structured open space events from
> my practice, sorted by length
> • -Morning, 4 hours (9am to 1pm)
> • -Afternoon, 4 hours (2pm to 6pm or 3pm to 7pm)
> • -Afternoon, 6 hours (2pm to 8pm)
> • -Afternoon, 6 hours with reading and supplementary round
> • -Full day, 6 hours (10am to 4pm)
> • -Full day, 6 hours with reading and supplement round
> • -Full day, 8 hours (9am to 5pm)
> • -Full day, 8 hours with action planning
> • - Whole day, 8 hours with reading and supplement round and action
> planning
> • -A long afternoon and a morning of action planning (15 to 15 p.m.).
> 20 and 9 to 13)
> • -Full day and one morning
> • -Whole day and a morning, action planning in the morning
> • -Full day and an afternoon with action planning a week later
> • -Two days
> • -Two days of reading and supplementing rounds over lunchtime on the
> second day and beyond
> action planning
> • -Afternoon, all day, morning, with reading group and action planning at
> the last
> Late morning
> • -Afternoon, all day, afternoon with reading session and action planning
> on the last
> Afternoon
> • -2.5 days with a reading circle and action planning on the last half day
> (full day, full
> day and morning)
> • -2.5 days with a reading circle and action planning on the last half day
> (full day, full
> day and afternoon)
> • -2.5 days with reading and supplementary gallery in the evening of the
> second day and
> Action planning in the last half day
>
> 2
> Comparison of a three day and a 2 day event
>
> Length of open space events
>
> Possibilities of a three-day event with 4.5 hours in the afternoon of the
> first day, 8 hours on the second day and 3.5 hours on the third day, a
> total of 16 hours, sleeping twice
>
> compared to a
>
> two-day event with 8.5 hours on the first day and 3.5 hours on the second
> day, a total of 12 hours.
> I have facilitated short events of 3.5 hours and such of 16 hours spread
> over 3 days...and everything in between. Looking 167 events accompanied by
> me
> I see over 20 variants. All have their justification and
> significantly different possibilities.
> Urgent, complex and conflicting challenges, to which there are different
> positions of the various stakeholders  need more than an afternoon to
> reach robust and sustainable action steps.
> Thorough discussions, including a dive into the past (divergent phase) and
> the development of robust, sustainable action steps with concrete
> agreements (converging phase) are possible in a three day event (half day,
> full day and half day, 16 hours total, sleeping twice).
>
> This process allows:
> 1. Six to seven beginning times for break out sessioons
> 2. Three circles for all participants to come together to post issues (at
> the beginning, in the evening of the first day and in the morning of the
> second day)
> 3. Two evenings and two nights to process ideas, thoughts and plans
> 4. Incorporation of posted reports from other break out sessions to get
> suggestions, to see connections and identify opportunities for collaboration
> 5. Outlook and action space on the third day, including the next step for
> each project.
>
> A relatively small reduction in overall time of 25% from 16 hours,
> distributed over three days, to 12 hours over two days, has the following
> effects:
> 1. Three to four beginning times for break out sessions (approx. 50% less)
> 2. Only one time for all participants to come together for posting issues
> (67% less)
> 3. Only one evening and night to process ideas and thoughts (50% less)
> 4. Reduced inclusion of already published reports from other break out
> sessions, since almost all of the time was spent in the break out sessions
> on the first day
> 5. Reading all reports from the break out sessions mainly only in the
> reading and augmentation round after the last break out sessions
> 6. Outlook and action space on the second day, after only one night to
> "Digest".
>
> In comparison, this means:
>
> • With three to four break out sessions, participants only have the
> half the opportunities to be involved in issues that interest them
> • With three to four break out sessions,  participation of individuals can
> decrease to two to three issues if a particular issue requires more than
> one break out session
> • If there are three to four break out sessions, the option to skip one
> phase is still there, but with the consequence of only being able to take
> part in two or three break out sessions
> • Three to four break out sessions instead of 6 to 7 with 40 issues posted
> by 110 participants, needs 14 break out spaces, seven beginning times for
> break out sessions requires only 7 break out spacess ... a more manageable
> situation for the participants to grasp the whole system,
> and requiring significantly less space
> • Sleeping twice means a deeper penetration of systemic connections, links
> and possibilities and consequently more robust agreements than just
> sleeping once ... peace and serenity to get on with important stuff
> • At an event lasting one and a half days, many participants see the
> results of the other break out sessions for the first time in the evening
> of the first day in the reading and augmenting round or even on the second
> day shortly before the action space. This leads to a lower processing depth
> with regard to cooperation, networking and robust next steps
> • If there is only one day for break out sessions, time for additions to
> the
> reports in the reading and augmentation round is reduced. Calm and
> leisure for taking in all reports was reduced.
> • The unfolding of the typical dynamic, which also leads to the discovery
> of new issues is limited...there's just less total time and only one
> instead of three structured opportunity (circles for the whole group) to
> bring up new issues
> • Space and time for the unfolding of self-organization, and for
> development
> of perspectives for action and agreement on next steps is reduced.
>
> If you got to this point of my lengthy mail it might be a good idea to
> take a nap.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> mmp
>
> PS: Watched a long TV documentation yesterday on the highly complex
> situation in Moldova... what a challenge!
>
>
> Am 19.05.2023 um 04:58 schrieb Bhavesh Patel via OSList:
>
> When I have 90 minutes, I call it Options Space, not Open Space Technology
> because:
>
>    - I still offer the principles and the law.
>    - However I have observed that movement between sessions is a lot less.
>    - I rarely see people sitting outside of sessions.
>    - It's like they have chosen an option and they stick with it.
>    - I feel like more time is needed for the OST spirit and dynamics to
>    kick-in and unfold.
>    - So I have started calling the 90 minutes Options Space instead.
>
> What's your experience?
>
>
> On Fri, 19 May 2023 at 01:48, Anna Caroline Türk via OSList <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Joe,
>>
>> It's wonderful in Berlin - we had a sunny day off :)
>> I have only been once in Limerick hitchhicking back to Galway with my
>> boyfriend at the age of 17. After lots of waiting we wrote a sign " Just 3
>> miles" - to encourage drivers to even take us for a short part of the trip.
>> Finally we were extrely lucky and tourists from the US picked us up - we
>> ended up spending several days with them and later visited them in Texas.
>> This is my memory of your part of the world. :)
>>
>> And happy to hear that you're bringing Open Space to your communities!
>> How did you find out about it and how did you mentor yourself to apply it?
>> With the help of Harrison Ownes Book "Open Space Technology", or how is
>> your story?
>>
>> For your 90 minutes Open Space next week I am curious about a couple of
>> things.
>>
>>    - Is the Open Space part of a bigger meeting? Or are the participants
>>    arriving in that moment?
>>    - Who chose the title of the Open Space?
>>    - Who will do the Welcome at the beginning? Do you have a sponsor?
>>    - Do you have a big room with a circle and breakout areas close by or
>>    in the room?
>>    - How many starting times for breakout sessions have you planned?
>>    - Are there more meetings planned for the near or far future?
>>    - Will you invite them to write down highlights of their
>>    conversations, will these be shared with everyone?
>>
>>
>> I am happy to share a few ideas with you - once I know about more about
>> these things.
>>
>> Liebe Grüße
>> Anna Caroline
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Anna Caroline Türk*
>> Mentor to Visionary Leaders
>> +49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com  <http://TruthCircles.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am Mi., 17. Mai 2023 um 10:02 Uhr schrieb Joe Power <
>> [email protected]>:
>>
>>> Hi Anna,
>>>
>>> Wie geht es in Berlin? Thanks for the message. Galway is a great city.
>>>
>>> I held an OS for anyone in the restorative practices community in
>>> Ireland to come together to see what else could be achieved. Had 30 people
>>> show up and the feedback was great. People couldn't believe the freedom. Am
>>> doing one in person next week (just 90 minutes though) for people in a
>>> community with a lot of antisocial behaviour. They are bringing 20 parents
>>> and 6 or 7 "professionals" and I think an Open Space is the best way to
>>> maximise engagement and ideas. The time is obviously short, and I've never
>>> done one in-person, nor done training, nor attended one, but hopefully it
>>> goes to plan. Would welcome any advice from anyone.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 8:44 AM Anna Caroline Türk <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Joe,
>>>>
>>>> I went to school in Galway- but I don’t live in Ireland any more. I
>>>> hope this still qualifies me to talk with you about your experience ☺️
>>>>
>>>> I can relate to you having the bug - I guess something similar happens
>>>> to me 20 years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Liebe Grüße from Berlin
>>>> Anna Caroline
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe Power via OSList <[email protected]> schrieb am Mi. 17. Mai 2023
>>>> um 08:53:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>> Am new to OS (via restorative practice) and would love to connect with
>>>>> anyone in Ireland or who has done work in Ireland. Held an online OS this
>>>>> week and have the bug!
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Power
>>>>> Restorative Practices Development Officer
>>>>> Céim ar Chéim
>>>>> Unit 5 Shannon Development Units
>>>>> Knockalisheen Road
>>>>> Moyross
>>>>> Limerick
>>>>> Tel:     061-322122/087-9363010
>>>>> Fax:    061-322203
>>>>> Website: www.restorativepracticeslimerick.ie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *Anna Caroline Türk*
>>>> Mentor to Visionary Leaders
>>>> +49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com  <http://TruthCircles.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Joe Power
>>> Restorative Practices Development Officer
>>> Céim ar Chéim
>>> Unit 5 Shannon Development Units
>>> Knockalisheen Road
>>> Moyross
>>> Limerick
>>> Tel:     061-322122/087-9363010
>>> Fax:    061-322203
>>> Website: www.restorativepracticeslimerick.ie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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