> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brent Meeker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 October 2001 4:06 a.m.
> It was a hypothetical that Bruno used.  It's pretty certain nobody knows
> how to do it now and it might never be practical.  But if the
> processes, including the sensory ones, were duplicated I have
> no reason to think that it would not be conscious.  The contrary
> conclusion would seem to imply vitalism and magic.

The question is more whether there *is* a level of abstraction that can be skimmed off 
the biological substrate. Although I suppose
it would be possible (in theory) to simulate the behaviour of all the cells in the 
brain to arbitrary accuracy - if necessary at the
level of molecules, or atoms (I can't see you having to go any lower than that). And 
leaving aside any problems with speed and
memory, at *that* point it seems unlikely that you'd be able to argue the thing wasn't 


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