Give me your FAX number and I will fax you the photo.

-----Original Message-----
From: Saibal Mitra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:45 PM
To: John Ross; 'Russell Standish'
Cc: 'Hal Ruhl'; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea


I'm sure you saw something else :-)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Russell Standish'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'Hal Ruhl'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 01:40 AM
Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea


> I say a neutrino does not have a rest mass.  It is a photon, like a 
> very high energy gamma ray photon.  I have seen photos of a neutrino 
> collision in a neutrino trap.  From the look of all the resulting 
> ionization tracks, it must have had a lot more energy than 40 ev.  I 
> say the energy of neutrinos is in the range of 300 mev!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russell Standish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:00 PM
> To: John Ross
> Cc: 'Hal Ruhl'; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea
> 
> 
> According to special relativity, anything with a positive rest mass 
> travels slower than the speed of light. Neutrinos have been measured 
> with a positive rest mass, of around 40ev for the electron neutrino 
> IIRC, and higher values for the muon and tauon neutrinos.
> 
> I have never heard of either tardyon or luxon before either, but have 
> heard of tachyon, or faster than light particle. Clearly tardyon is 
> therefore slower than light, and luxon is at light speed.
> 
> Luxons therefore have zero rest mass, and tachyons have imaginary (ie 
> proportional to sqrt(-1)) rest mass.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 03:06:55PM -0700, John Ross wrote:
> > Where is the proof that a neutrino is not a photon.  I believe 
> > people
> > are only guessing that a neutrino is a tardyon, whatever in the hell
a
> 
> > tardyon is.  Tardyons are not in my dictionary.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hal Ruhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:50 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea
> > 
> > 
> > As I understand it a photon is a luxon as is a gluon and a neutrino 
> > is a tardyon.
> > 
> > Hal Ruhl
> > 
> > 
> > At 04:49 PM 10/10/2005, you wrote:
> > >I think the beta decay model is wrong where it predicts neutrinos 
> > >are basically different from photons.  I understand neutrinos 
> > >travel at
> the
> > 
> > >speed of light.  Only photons travel at the speed of light.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Saibal Mitra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:30 PM
> > >To: John Ross; [email protected]
> > >Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea
> > >
> > >
> > >This means that beta decay proves your model wrong.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "John Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "'Stephen Paul King'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> > ><[email protected]>
> > >Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 12:35 AM
> > >Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the paper relating to detection of "low energy" 
> > > > neutrinos. However, according to my model, neutrinos are very,
> very
> > > > high energy photons (off everybody's chart, except mine).
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, if my model is correct, then low energy neutrinos 
> > > > would merely be the photons we are familiar with and would be 
> > > > very easy
> to
> > 
> > > > detect.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Stephen Paul King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:54 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Neutrino shield idea
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Howdy!
> > > >
> > > >     I friend of mine has worked on a related idea that might 
> > > > help this
> > >
> > > > inverstigation. Please see:
> > > >
> > > > http://davidwoolsey.com/physics/ideas/neutrinoscope/index.html
> > > >
> > > > Kindest regards,
> > > >
> > > > Stephen
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "John Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Cc: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:57 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: ROSS MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE - The Simplest Yet 
> > > > Theory
> > > > of
> > 
> > > > Everything
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Yes.  But building a neutrino shield would be difficult.
> > > >
> 
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