Peter, would you consider to identify the 'observer'? (Maybe not as an O -moment...) Many think of The Observer AS "me" or "fellow humans" while there may be a broader view, like e.g. "anything catching info" which comes closer to (my) 'conscious' definition. The observer seems so fundamental in the views of this list (and in wider circles of contemporaryh thinking) that a more general identification may be in order. To Stephens question: the ongoing paradigmic change in views include the image of 'observing' (observER) as well, so I would not rely on older (published?) authors even as reputable as Locke to adjust to recent views.
John --- 1Z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > George Levy wrote: > > > Stephen Paul King wrote: > > > > >little discussion has > > >been given to the implications of taking the 1st > person aspect as primary or > > >fundamental. Could you point me toward any that > you have seen? > > > > > > > Hi Stephen > > > > Alas, I am a mere engineer, not a philosopher. The > only author I can > > point you to is John Locke who I was told had some > view similar to the > > ones I expressed. I have formed my opinions > mostly independently in the > > process of writing a book (unpublished :'( ) I > think that science is > > moving gradually toward first person - starting > with Galileo's > > relativity, then Einstein's relativity and finally > with QM (MWI). As > > science had progressed, the observer has acquired > a greater and greater > > importance. Extrapolating to the limit, "I" > becomes central and its > > existence anthropically defines (creates) the > world where it resides. > > Science may have moved close to making the observer > central epistemically , but it has not room for the > idea > that observers are ontologically fundamental. > > Observers are people, homo sapiens, the product of > millions > of years of evolution. Scientifically speaking. > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---