Please see after your remark/question at the end John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruno Marchal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Bruno's argument
Le 28-juil.-06, à 02:52, John M a écrit : > Then again is the 'as - if' really a computation as in our today's > vocabulary? Or, if you insist (and Bruno as well, that it IS) is it > conceivable as our digital process, that embryonic first approach, or > we > may hope to understand later on a higher level (I have no better word > for > it): the analog computation of qualia and meaning? Certainly not the > Turing > or Church ways and not on Intel etc. processors. What makes you so sure? Sometimes you talk like if you were sure we are not digital machine. Is that not a human prejudice? At least I can explain why If we are machine, we cannot *know* it (just bet on it). There is mathematical description of machine's prejudices. Bruno ------------------------------- JM: "...We May Hope..." does not seem to me as beiing "so sure". Look please at the "-IF-" in your offered explanation. How about "if not?" the mathematical description is part of the "human prejudice" you mention. You are within a mindset and not responsive to outside ideas. Which is natural. Once I allow to my (outside) ideas to be dragged INTO your circle of your mindset I am lost. Which may not be so bad, but if I am mistaken, I want to get it verified from arguments applicable within my thinking. Just as you cannot argue with a religious belief taken as very 'sufficient evidence' by the adherents. They KNOW and my agnostic doubt looks to 'them' as a typical "Nescio" non est Argumentum,". (Nor are "if"-s - I think). Best John --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
