Apologies to the list and to Stathis especially! I replied to Stathis - and "lost" the text - at least I thought so. That happens in Yahoo-mail sometimes and so far I could not detect which 'key' did I touch wrong? So I wrote another one and mailed it all right.
Then in the mail I detected my 'original' and "lost" text, it was snatched away and mailed. The two are pretty different. Redface John ----- Original Message ----- From: "John M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <email@example.com> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 8:12 AM Subject: Re: Bruno's argument - Comp > > Stathis: > "I know that whatever theory I come up with will almost certainly be > proved > wrong given enough > time, so I won't bother coming up with a theory at all." > Funny that you of all people come up with such a supposition so different > from fundamental basic human nature! > We all hope to be smarter than , And speculate. > Even those "scientists" you refer to. > "Evidence"? that is what I scrutinize. It is subject to the level of our > ongoing epistemic enrichment and without later findings one settles with > insufficient ones that become soon obsolete. > I was challenged to propose technical levels 50 years ahead. It is > impossible. I rather try to compose "what and why" of our present > technological and theoretical status could we NOT imagine 60 years > ago...it > is entertaining. > > Man is optimist. Even myself with a cynical pessimism. > > John M > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stathis Papaioannou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "John M" <firstname.lastname@example.org> > Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 7:22 AM > Subject: RE: Bruno's argument - Comp > > > > John M writes: > >> Earlier we lived in a telephone central switchboard, further back in a >> steam-engine. Not to mention the Turtle. >> The 'cat' specifies IMO ignorance without prejudice. > > Very droll, very true! But what, then, must we do? Scientists come up with > the > best theory consistent with the evidence, with a willingness to revise the > theory > in the light of new evidence. They might not be quite as willing as they > ideally > should be, but that's just human nature, and they all come around to doing > the > right thing eventually. It would not be very helpful if we all thought, "I > know that > whatever theory I come up with will almost certainly be proved wrong given > enough > time, so I won't bother coming up with a theory at all." > > Stathis Papaioannou > > >> > I recently read somebody's speculation that the reality we inhabit is >> > may >> > be >> > a quantum computer. Presumably when we observe Schrodinger's cat >> > simultaneously being killed and not killed, we are observing the >> > quantum >> > computer in action. >> > >> > Norman Samish >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "John M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <email@example.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 2:05 PM >> > Subject: Re: Bruno's argument - Comp >> > >> > >> >> >> >> To All: >> >> I know my questions below are beyond our comprehension, but we read >> >> (and >> >> write) so much about this idea that I feel compelled to ask: >> >> >> >> is there any idea why there would be 'comp'? our computers require >> >> juice >> >> to >> >> work and if unplugged they represent a very expensive paperweight. >> >> >> >> What kind of "computing unit" (universe? multiverse, or some other >> >> satanic >> >> 'verse') would run by itself without being supplied by something that >> >> moves >> >> it? I hate to ask about its program as well, whether it is an >> >> "intelligent >> >> design"? >> >> Is it a pseudnym for some godlike mystery? >> >> >> >> Are we reinventing the religion? >> >> >> >> John Mikes >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. > http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/409 - Release Date: 8/4/2006 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/410 - Release Date: 8/5/2006 > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---