Le 09-août-06, à 12:46, 1Z a écrit :
> Timeless universe, universes where everything that can exist > does exist, are not well founded empirically. So we should understand that you would criticize any notion, sometimes brought by physicists, of "block-universe". Time would be a primitive? What about relativist notion of space-time? BTW I agree with most of your post (of 09/08/2006) to David. At the same time I'm astonished that you seem attracted by the idea of making time a primitive one. I know that some respectable physicists do that (Prigogine, Bohm in some sense), but many physicist does not (Einstein, ...). Of course it is more easy to explain that consciousness supervene on number relations to someone who already accept consciousness could supervene to a block-universe than to someone who want time (or consciousness, or first person notion) to be primitive. Of course I believe that once we assume the comp hyp. there is no more choice in the matter. Let me comment your other post in the same reply (to avoid mail box explosion). > The non-existence of HP universes still doesn't > disprove comp. It shows we con't live in abig universe, > whether a big phsyical univere or a big Platonia. Nice. It means you get the seven steps of the 8-steps version of the UDA. (Universal Dovetailer Argument). Thanks for resending the 15-steps version of it, it can help. Now I think that my SANE paper, which contains the 8 steps version of the UDA, is, despite minor errors, the closest english version of my Lille thesis, and even better with respect to readability. (Except that it lacks, like the 15 steps version) the movie-graph argument). Available here in html or pdf: http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/publications/ SANE2004MARCHALAbstract.html Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
