On 11/8/2025 4:45 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2025 at 6:13 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

    /> I ask ChatGPT questions because it knows more stuff than I do. 
    But that doesn't mean it has children it cares about or even its
    own health./


*Then why did an AI resort to blackmailin an attempt to avoid being turned off? *
That's what I'd like to know.

*AI system resorts to blackmail if told it will be removed* <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqeng9d20go>

*And why do you believe that emotion is harder to generate than intelligence?*
I don't.  I just wonder where it comes from in AI.  I know where it comes from in biological evolution.  Does AI, in it's incorporation of human knowledge, conclude that it's going to die...and that's bad thing?  Why doesn't it look at knowledge /about/ AI and reflect that it can't die?

Brent

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    On 11/7/2025 3:45 AM, John Clark wrote:
    *There's a lot of disagreement about when the singularity will
    happen so I did a little research to find some quotes from people
    who know the most about AI think it will happen. If they're right
    then Ray Kurzweil's prediction of 2039 (recently modified from
    his previous prediction of 2045) is still way too conservative. *
    *==*
    *_Sam Altman_,the head of OpenAI *
    *
    *
    *“Our latest model feels smarter than me in almost every way…”*
    *
    *
    *"In some big sense, ChatGPT is already more powerful than any
    human who has ever lived. We may have already passed the point
    where artificial intelligence surpasses human intelligence"*

    *_Dario Amodei_, the head of Anthropic:*
    *
    *
    *“It is my guess that by 2026 or 2027, we will have A.I. systems
    that are broadly better than all humans at almost all things.”*
    *
    *
    *“Artificial intelligence (AI) is likely to be smarter than most
    Nobel Prize winners before the end of this decade.”*
    **
    *_Elon Musk_, you may have heard of him: *

    *“If you define AGI (artificial general intelligence) as smarter
    than the smartest human, I think it’s probably next year, within
    two years.”*
    *
    *
    *“My guess is that we’ll have AI that is smarter than any one
    human probably around the end of next year.”*
    *
    *
    *“I always thought AI was going to be way smarter than humans and
    an existential risk. And that's turning out to be true.”*
    *
    *
    *John K Clark*
    *
    *

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