On Sun, Nov 9, 2025 at 5:10 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
*> What makes you think your wife is mad when she slams the bedroom door?* *I think she is probably angry for the same reason that I think an AI is probably conscious, I deduced it from behavioral actions; it's not a proof but I think it's a pretty good hypothesis. The only alternative is solipsism, and I simply could not function if I really believed in that. * *John K Clark * > > On 11/9/2025 1:57 PM, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2025 at 4:27 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > >> *> My dog feels happy or sad, he just doesn't think about. AI's think >> about it because that's something you do in words, but do they feel it? * >> > > *The short answer is I don't know. I know for a fact that I am capable of > feeling happy and sad but I'll never know for sure if an AI can actually > feel happy or sad, and I could say exactly the same thing about you. But > there are few things in life we can be absolutely certain about so we must > do the best we can in the absence of certainty, and I think it would be a > pretty good assumption that both you and your dog and the AI are all > capable of feeling happy and sad. * > > *So should we take morality into account in the way we treat AI's? I don't > think that is an interesting question because in the long run it makes no > difference if the answer is yes or no. A much more interesting question > is, **should an AI take morality into account in the way it > treats humans?* > > * > I know my dog feels it because when he's happy he's energetic, wants >> to play, wags his tail,* >> > > *What makes you think those actions have anything to do with an internal > emotional state? * > > What makes you think your wife is mad when she slams the bedroom door? > > Brent > > > *John K Clark* > > >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3PuSDMvRiC1FhqmaXrKohduggbrhyWDDQahm3i%3DZMdsQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3PuSDMvRiC1FhqmaXrKohduggbrhyWDDQahm3i%3DZMdsQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/612ea01a-9e03-4851-8daa-d7db6d2fa7c8%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/612ea01a-9e03-4851-8daa-d7db6d2fa7c8%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2k76PSid79BDXeMmakVC4P7hGeaZdzZNDHc2jAJWJ5LA%40mail.gmail.com.
