On 11/10/2025 12:40 PM, John Clark wrote:

On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 2:28 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

    /> Even a dog or an octopus is more like you than an LLM is, /


*These days I can have a stimulating philosophical conversation with aLLM, but when I discuss philosophy with my dog the conversation tends to be somewhat less interesting. *

    /> they are both embodied/


*Was Stephen Hawking"embodied"? Even today's clumsy robots can directly manipulate things in the physical world better than he could.*
*Yes he was embodied.  He was always in some particular place.  I just used that as an example.  He was like you many other ways too.

Brent*

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