So you infer your wife has internal emotional states from her behavior.
I'd add that she is also much more like you than an LLM is. Even a dog
or an octopus is more like you than an LLM is, they are both embodied
and adapted to living in a 4D world.
Brent
On 11/10/2025 3:17 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Nov 9, 2025 at 5:10 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
/> What makes you think your wife is mad when she slams the
bedroom door?/
*I think she is _probably_ angry for the same reason that I think an
AI is _probably_ conscious,I deduced it from behavioral actions; it's
not a proof but I think it's a pretty good hypothesis. The only
alternative is solipsism, and I simply could not function if I really
believed in that. *
*
*
*John K Clark *
On 11/9/2025 1:57 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Nov 9, 2025 at 4:27 PM Brent Meeker
<[email protected]> wrote:
/> My dog feels happy or sad, he just doesn't think about.
AI's think about it because that's something you do in words,
but do they feel it? /
*The short answer is I don't know.I know for a fact that I am
capable of feeling happy and sad butI'll never know for sureif an
AIcan actually feel happy or sad,and I could say _exactly_ the
same thing about you. But there are few things in life we can be
absolutely certain about so we must do the best we can in the
absence of certainty, and I think it would be a pretty good
assumption that both you and your dog and the AI are all capable
of feeling happy and sad. *
*
*
*So should we take morality into account in the way we treat
AI's? I don't think that is an interesting question because in
the long run it makes no difference if the answer is yes or no. A
much more interesting question is, **should an AI take morality
into account in the way it treats humans?*
/> I know my dog feels it because when he's happy he's
energetic, wants to play, wags his tail,/
*Whatmakes you think those actions have anything to do with an
internal emotional state? *
What makes you think your wife is mad when she slams the bedroom door?
Brent
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*John K Clark*
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