Russell Standish writes: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 10:01:36PM +1000, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > Are you suggesting that of two very similar programs, one containing a true > > random > > number generator and the other a pseudorandom number generator, only the > > former > > could possibly be conscious? I suppose it is possible, but I see no reason > > to believe > > that it is true. > > > > Stathis Papaioannou > > I think this is what Maudlin's argument tells us. Is it that so > preposterous to you?
It seems to me that the idea of a deterministic machine being conscious is assumed to be preposterous, for no good reason. I believe that I could have acted differently even with identical environmental inputs, which is what the feeling of "free will" is. However, it is possible that I might *not* have been able to act differently: simply feeling that I could have done so is not evidence that it is the case. And even if it were the case, due to true quantum randomness or the proliferation of branches in the multiverse leading to the effect of first person indeterminacy, it does not follow that this is necessary for consciousness to occur. > I thought I had another argument based on creativity, but it seems > pseduo RNG programs can be creative, provided the RNG is cryptic enough. Right, it's the complexity of the program that generates interesting and perhaps intelligent behaviour, not its randomness. Stathis Papaioannou _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---