Quentin Anciaux wrote: > Le Tuesday 29 Août 2006 16:46, 1Z a écrit : > > Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > I'm not necessarily talking about every possible computation being > > > implemented by every physical system, just (at least) the subset of > > > finite computations implemented by a physical computer or brain. I think > > > this is another way of saying that a recording, or a single trace of a > > > computation branching in the multiverse, can be conscious. To prevent a > > > recording being consious yoiu can insist on counterfactual behaviour, but > > > that seems an ad hoc requirement introduced simply to prevent the > > > "trivial" case of a recording or any physical system implementing a > > > computation. > > > > The requirement that computations require counterfactuals isn't > > ad hoc, it comes from the observation that computer programmes > > include if-then statements. > > Would you say that a conscious program (if it is possible of course, imagine > for the argument) that contains a lot of dead code (code that is not executed > whatever input) should be more "conscious" than the same program without the > dead part ?
Computationalism does not hold that every programme (or rather process) is conscious. Whatever the further criteria are, they may or may not have to do with the amount of counterfactuallity. > If a conscious program exists, and we record all input that this program as > received and like Stathis propose we restart it and feed it with the same > exact input will it still be conscious ? The counterfactuals are still there. it would behave differently with different input. > If your answer to this is is a conscious program exists, it should be non > deterministic... That is another question. > Then that would only mean we cannot record exactly the > input... because a program which use a true random generator is not > deterministic not because of the program which is always deterministic, but > from the inability to predict/record the input exactly. And so my question > would be, is the consciousness located in the random generator instead of the > program ? why bother with the program then ? > Quentin --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---