Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> Peter Jones writes:
> 
> 
>> Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> If every computation is implemented everywhere anyway, this is equivalent to
>>> the situation where every computation exists as a platonic object, or every
>>> computation exists implemented on some computer or brain in a material
>>> multiverse.
>> 
>> But if implementing a particular computation depends on an observer, or a
>> dicitonary, or somesuch, it is not the case that everything implements every 
>> computation unless it can be shown that evey dictionary somehow exists as 
>> well.
> 
> 
> The computation provides its own observer if it is conscious, by definition. 

I'm always suspicious of things that are true "by definition".  How exactly 
does an 
observer provide meaning or whatever it is that makes a computation?  And how 
does 
consciousness fulfill this function.  I, in my conscious thoughts, certainly 
don't 
"observe" the computation that my brain performs.  In fact my thoughts seem to 
spring 
from nowhere more or less spontaneously in coherent trains or as prompted by 
perceptions.

Brent Meeker

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