Peter Jones writes: [Stathis Papaioannou] > > > If every computation is implemented everywhere anyway, this is equivalent > > > to the situation where every > > > computation exists as a platonic object, or every computation exists > > > implemented on some computer or > > > brain in a material multiverse. This gives rise to the issues of quantum > > > immortality and the white rabbit > > > problem, as discussed at great length in the past on this list. > > > > > > One way to discredit all this foolishness is to abandon > > > computationalism...
[Brent Meeker] > > I don't see how assuming consciousness is non-computational solves any of > > these > > conundrums about every object implementing every possible computation. > It would mean that every object implementing every possible computation > doesn't > imply that every object is conscious. Of course, one can also deny > that conclusion be regading computation as structural rather than > semantic. You don't have to go as far as saying that *computation* is structural rather than semantic. You only need to say that *consciousness* is structural, and hence non-computational. That's what some cognitive scientists have done, eg. Penrose, Searle, Maudlin. Personally, I don't see why there is such a disdain for the idea that every computation is implemented, including every conscious computation. The idea is still consistent with all the empirical facts, since we can only interact with a special subset of computations, implemented on conventional computers and brains. Stathis Papaioannou _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
