Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > Peter Jones writes: > > [Stathis Papaioannou] > > > > If every computation is implemented everywhere anyway, this is > > > > equivalent to the situation where every > > > > computation exists as a platonic object, or every computation exists > > > > implemented on some computer or > > > > brain in a material multiverse. This gives rise to the issues of > > > > quantum immortality and the white rabbit > > > > problem, as discussed at great length in the past on this list. > > > > > > > > One way to discredit all this foolishness is to abandon > > > > computationalism... > > [Brent Meeker] > > > I don't see how assuming consciousness is non-computational solves any of > > > these > > > conundrums about every object implementing every possible computation. > > > It would mean that every object implementing every possible computation > > doesn't > > imply that every object is conscious. Of course, one can also deny > > that conclusion be regading computation as structural rather than > > semantic. > > You don't have to go as far as saying that *computation* is structural rather > than semantic. You only need to say > that *consciousness* is structural, and hence non-computational. That's what > some cognitive scientists have done, > eg. Penrose, Searle, Maudlin. Personally, I don't see why there is such a > disdain for the idea that every computation > is implemented, including every conscious computation. The idea is still > consistent with all the empirical facts, since > we can only interact with a special subset of computations, implemented on > conventional computers and brains.
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