My apologies if my replying seems a bit slow. I *have* been thinking about these things though. I thought to try and make excuses, but really all that is necessary, amongst ethical correspondents anyway, is a forthright confession of mental inadequacy, n'est ce pas? :-)
I think 'kicks back' = measurable in some way. I think 'exists' is a generic, irreducible, ultimate value. In fact it is THE generic, irreducible, ultimate value and it underlies mathematical objects such as numbers as well as everything else. I will try and give an account of this assertion in my reply to Bruno on this thread because Bruno has provided the biggest challenge to my, uhhh, maturing brain. I have no real hopes of discovering a/the 'killer' argument, apart from claiming that 'Comp' always begs the question. Regards Mark Peaty CDES [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.arach.net.au/~mpeaty/ Russell Standish wrote: > On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 06:10:34PM -0500, John M wrote: > >> I can't wait for Bruno's (and others') versions. >> >> John M >> >> > > > My take on physical and existence. > > Physical: that which "kicks back" in the Samuel Johnson sense. It > doesn't rule out idealism, because the virtual reality in a VR > simulation also kicks back. > > Existence: This is a word with many meanings. To use it, one should > first say what type of existence you mean. For instance mathematical > existence means a property of a number that is true - eg "47 is > prime". Anthropic existence might mean something that "kicks back" to > some observer somewhere in the plenitude of possibilities. There is > another type of existence referring to that which "kicks back" to me > here, right now. And so on. > > It is possible to say "physical existence = mathematical existence" as > Tegmark does, but this is almost a definition, rather than a statement > of metaphysics. > > Cheers > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
